Re: menu layout proposal for gnome 2.10

[Bill Haneman <Bill Haneman Sun COM>]

On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 20:22, Ricardo Veguilla wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 10:47 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > I don't think moving the Accessibility applications into Preferences
> > makes sense; 
> 
> Right now "Accessibility" is part of "Preferences". Did you mean
> "Assistive Technologies"?

Yes, I meant "the accessibility-related applications, as opposed to
accessibility preferences".

Your proposal had no Applications->Accessibility submenu.
> 
> > it breaks the principle we adhere to elsewhere,
> > distinguishing "apps" from "system settings".  
> 
> Well, I must admit that is not clear to me how does the "Assistive
> Technologies" fit in the desktop user experience. My first thought was
> that these apps should not be considered "Applications" because they are
> not stand-alone applications, they are used to help the user use other
> applications. But, as I said before...I don't know what I'm talking
> about :)

They are actually applications, though they are, as you note, a bit
different from ordinary applications.  Calling them "meta-applications"
wouldn't be too far off the mark.
> 
> > If I want to run an
> > assistive technology just once (and not make it a startup program for my
> > desktop), I shouldn't have to go into Preferences to find it.
> > 
> 
> Why not?...I mean, ignoring the "settings" vs "apps" issue, 

But that *is* the issue.

> what you
> describe its not a regular use-case. It is usual for "average user" to
> manually launch "assistive apps" as opposed to "adding them to startup
> programs"?

Both uses are valid.  Therefore the ATs are in the Applications menu,
because they are applications, but it is also possible to configure your
session to launch them automatically, via the Preferences menu.

What we have now WRT accessibility and menus is correct IMO.

- Bill

> -- 
> Ricardo Veguilla <veguilla hpcf upr edu>
>