Re: PROPOSAL : Integrating system tools in GNOME

[Carlos Garnacho <garnacho tuxerver net>]

El vie, 04-06-2004 a las 05:57, -0400, Daniel Brodie escribió:
> > Then it is obviously not advertised or used correctly or its
> architecture
> > doesn't inspire the OS makers to endorse it. I have yet to see anyone
> except
> > Ximian using the framework (I think RH uses python and their own
> backend
> > thing and Mdk their own thing too using gtk-perl).
> 
> I personally think that the problem with gnome-system-tools is a bit
> different. Currently, the backend is very tied in into the frontend (I
> don't mean codewise, since I don't really know about that, but rather
> from the way the project is presented etc...). I think that if the
> backend is ripped out, and made to get some kde buy-in (KST for the KDE
> centric distros?), and also have a curses frontend, then distros would
> prefer to support this semi-universal backend. That way they write one
> backend (should be a few Perl/Python scripts) and then people can use
> any number of tools from any DE or frontend to configure their system,
> and they arn't tied into Gnome/GTK.

The backends are in a separate CVS module (setup-tools-backends in cvs.
gnome.org) and there is already a KDE tool using the backends [1],
that's definitely a good first step :)

[1] http://knetworkconf.sourceforge.net/


> 
> Infact, if the backend gets ripped out enough and made into a
> semi-library, this could be the way GNOME and KDE can provide the
> integration with the system, that until now have been done with hacks
> and distro specific patches.
> Say the library could have a way of getting if a user has permissions to
> reboot/shutdown (for the logout dialog).
> Or if a user has permissions to activate/deactivate/configure a network
> device, and allowing applets like the network monitor to do those things
> (I know fedora has something like that, but only with regards to
> activation)
> 
> Basically, what I am trying to say is that I think there will be a
> bigger distro buy in if the backend gets used much more beyond the
> gnome-system-tools. Currently, as other people said, for most distros
> there just isn't a point.
> 
> P.S. Sorry Eugenia for accidentally sending this to you separately
> 
> Daniel
> 
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