Re: 2.4 Proposed New Modules - System Tools

[Sean Middleditch <elanthis awesomeplay com>]

On Tue, 2003-05-27 at 09:41, Murray Cumming Comneon com wrote:
> > gnome-network - Network admin, things, maybe - might have something to do
> > with gnome-system-tools.
> >  http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-network/
> >
> > gnome-system-tools - Additions for the GNOME control panel, traditionally
> > provided by distros.
> >  http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/
> 
> Hardly anyone has spoken about these ones [1], so I'll ask the usual
> ignorant questions instead:
> 
> 1. What's the relationship between gnome-system-tools and gnome-network?
> Should they be combined?

>From my understanding, gnome-network has general utilities. 
gnome-system-tools are _only_ for configuration.

> 2. Are they supposed to provide only system-wide preferences as opposed to
> per-user preferences in the current control panel?

Only system configuration; i.e., stuff that usually needs root access to
change.

>    Something like the Preferences and System Settings menus in RedHat 9?
> 3. Why do the gnome-system-tools require a backend abstraction more than the
> current control panels do?

Because the tools have to work on many linux distros, *BSDs, Solaris,
HP-UX, etc.  The control panel only has to sit on top of the GNOME
lbis.  Each and every OS tho has different config files, tool versions,
etc.  Abstracting the UI from the backend makes sense for this.

> 4. Is anybody still suggesting these for GNOME 2.4. Why not exactly?

I personally think things like this should be distro-specific; i.e., if
RedHat or whoever wants to use these, fine.  But the only people not
using distro-supplied packages are more likely than not to have systems
not even supported by the gst (i.e., the from-scratch or
hobby/specialist distros).

Some of the tools are generically useful tho, like the modem dialer
setup.

> 5. What's going to change about that for GNOME 2.6. They seem very useful
> and I hear they work fairly well.
> 
> [1] The GEP end date is now June 2nd. Not much time left.
> 
> Murray Cumming
> murrayc usa net
> www.murrayc.com
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