Re: Major change in desktop handling
- From: Sean Middleditch <elanthis awesomeplay com>
- To: "desktop-devel-list gnome org" <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Major change in desktop handling
- Date: 16 May 2003 09:15:48 -0400
On Fri, 2003-05-16 at 06:59, Manuel Clos wrote:
> Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> > Things that would be nice to have still:
> >
> > * A desktop button in the file selector, as well as a Home button.
> > We really do need a good file selector with bookmarks and
> > gnome-vfs support. The gtk filesel is not that bad, but it just
> > lacks everything but the very basic functionality.
>
> Two buttons when we can go with just one (using $HOME as desktop)???
> This doesn't help to make a simpler, cleaner, gnome desktop.
The thing is, they are separate. One is where my files go. One is my
workspace. I don't want all my old stuff cluttered on my workspace.
(Desktop)
>
> > * Even more speed for Nautilus, this has improved dramatically and
> > the slowness was one of the reasons I know that drove me to find
> > solutions to find my files faster. But still, under moderate
>
> Find files faster? I can't imagine a faster way to find my files than
> having them in front of me. I can't also understand why people insist in
> having two different locations for something unique, which force two
> buttons on file selectors. In the old gnome1 days, my $HOME was a crap.
> Now, with desktop = $HOME, everything is cleaned up. It forces you to
> clean up things.
I believed that too. Except, I can't clean up a lot of stuff. I can't
get rid of ~/public_html. I can't get rid of ~/RealOne. I can't get
rid of ~/evolution. I have several directories I use only for coding,
and never ever have any reason to access using GNOME (I code in a
terminal w/ ViM), but they have to be on my desktop somewhere. (As I'm
still using $HOME.) And like I said in a previous mail, a lot of
systems have ~/tmp or ~/mnt (both of which I've had and needed) or even
~/bin and so on.
With ~/Desktop, only what I want on the desktop is on the desktop. In
$HOME, all the UNIX noise is there too.
>
> If we are going to let users crap the $HOME dir, and have a tidy
> desktop, then PLEASE, remove the $HOME button from everywhere. It does
> not make any sense.
Except that you have to be able to get to it...
As a point that all $HOME dirs will be crap, I think this is more the
person. You say that using $HOME as desktop made it clean; actually, it
just forced you to have good habits. The folders on your desktop
probably weren't much better off. Compare that to my system where it's
always been fairly clean - all I did when I moved to $HOME as desktop is
rename the folders to have a leading capital, to look prettier. Because
I organize everything from the start. ~,^ (Probably why I like the
NeXTStep file heirarchy so much more than unix.... ;-)
>
> > system load opening folders can get slow. I guess this is
> > unavoidable too, but it still sucks to be the user at that
> > point.
> >
>
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