Re: [GnomeMeeting-list] 2.4 Proposed Modules - GnomeMeeting

[Julien Olivier <julo altern org>]

Hi Paolo.

I think you should keep in mind that, very often, people don't install
GNOME. They install Redhat, Mandrake, Suse, Debian or whatever they
like. So, not having gnomemeeting in GNOME desktop release is not a
problem as long as distributors provide it. That's why I don't think
it's that important to have a whole bunch of applications in GNOME. For
me, GNOME releases should focus on GNOME libraries and a very few apps
like Nautilus, the panel etc...

I'm not sure 100% whether gnomemeeting should be part of GNOME releases
but what's important is that, if it wasn't, it wouldn't be _missing_ for
users if distros do their job.

Le mer 07/05/2003 �3:14, Paolo Di Francesco a �it :
> Hello list
> 
> I agree with Damien, and I just want to give the opinion of a 
> desktop user (me): windows has this success because people is 
> "lazy". 
> When the user installs the latest XYZ version of linux (or any 
> unix-like operating system) he/she expect to find all the 
> usefull applications, i.e. the applications the user COULD 
> use.
> Let's say that if the user does not have a mic or a webcam, 
> he/she will never open gnomemeeting, or maybe the user will 
> buy a mic/webcam because he/she did not know the existence of 
> that software.
> But if the user will start gnome and he/she had to install 
> gnomemeeting he/she will start thinking that gnomemeeting is 
> missing some funzionalities ("hey I have to install this? 
> isnt' this already installed/natevely supported?")
> 
> On the other side my feeling is that I don't want 100 
> Calculator applications, but at least one which is nice and 
> working.... ;)
> 
> Gnomemeeting is a great piece of software please support it!
> 
> 
> > 
> > That's a decision which has to be taken, but then you need to be
> > coherent for the whole desktop. I just would like to say that Microsoft
> > is shipping with Netmeeting *by default*. 
> > 
> > It is up to you to determine if you want GNOME to have features that
> > other desktop environments do not have, or if you prefer to wait that
> > they ship with such an application too before deciding to include one in
> > GNOME.
> > 
> > If people have to make a choice between 2 desktops, they will choose the
> > one that offers the most possibilities in terms of functionnalities.
> > 
> > > 2. It seems, by definition, niche. Don't you need special hardware (a
> > > microphone and webcam) to even use it? So it doesn't even seem usable by
> > 
> > You need a microphone, but not a Webcam (see FAQ).
> > 
> > > most people. No, I haven't tried it - I don't have anyone to GnomeMeeting
> > > with.
> > > 
> > 
> > That's perhaps the reason why you argue against its inclusion.
> > GnomeMeeting is not only a "videoconferencing" application like most
> > people seem to believe it, GnomeMeeting is also more generally a VOIP 
> > and an IP telephony application which supports an industry standard :
> > H323 (SIP to be supported in the future). If you want that the GNOME
> > desktop seduces the corporate users as well as the normal users, you
> > have to offer collaborative and communication tools. I can put you in
> > contact with people who are using GnomeMeeting in professional
> > environments and where it is perfectly integrated with other VOIP tools
> > if you want.
> > 
> > I really believe in VOIP and I think that VOIP will spread more and more
> > in the future. GNOME has the opportunity to officially include a VOIP
> > tool in its desktop release, perhaps you should think twice about it,
> > don't miss your future ;)
> > 
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> > Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>
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