Re: GtkMediaPlayer widget
- From: Lee Braiden <jel ntlworld com>
- To: Ryan Gammon <rgammon real com>
- Cc: Gnome Multimedia Hackers <gnome-multimedia gnome org>, GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list gnome org>, Gstreamer-Devel <gstreamer-devel lists sourceforge net>
- Subject: Re: GtkMediaPlayer widget
- Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:39:42 +0000
On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 9:11 pm, Ryan Gammon wrote:
> It's still a little early to be claiming GNOME victory ;)
I agree. But no one did that. I simply said that gstreamer is already (for
the purposes of this discussion) a part of GNOME. And, again, I asked what
required Real to have their own player in GNOME instead of just porting their
codecs to gstreamer?
> I could turn this around and say "My only concern is with the repetitive
> nature of gstreamer's work, when helix is already a cross-platform,
> client/producer/server solution. Is there some fundamental problem with
> Helix that prevents linux from using it?"
Quite a few. But that's irrelevant. This is a discussion on a GNOME list,
wherein you asked for support of Helix in GNOME.
> (If readers want to argue "licensing", the best place to make it is on
> the licensing open helixcommunity org list, where it'll have the most
> effect).
I think I'll leave it up to the Helix community to discuss their licensing in
their own lists :)
> And, of course, competition is good. It works for Gnome and KDE.
Some say that. I say co-operation is good.
> >Or is it just that you have another agenda, that doesn't lend
> >itself to porting codecs to GNOME's gstreamer?
>
> Disclaimer: I don't speak for Real. All opinions are my own.
> That said, you say that with such an air of conspiracy ;)
If my knowledge of a company's actions combines with an experience of
commercial companies to lead me to suspicion, then that's one thing. Lets
not accuse each other of being conspiracy theorists though, please.
> The helix project, IMO, is about getting the open source community
> involved in streaming media technologies
We're already involved, on many fronts, in many projects.
> At the end of the day, helix is an open source project. If you trust us,
> great. If you don't, you don't have to because you have the source under
> the GPL-like RPSL license, or commercially under the RCSL.
Again, I'm suspicious. And I'll happily admit that my first thought is to
distrust commercial interests. Let's face it; that's just how most
commercial companies work. It'd be stupid not to be suspicious.
That's not to say, however, that I feel Helix cannot do anything synergistic
with the Free/Open Source community. I'm just waiting to hear what that is,
since everything so far seems to be a reinvention of what we already have.
--
Lee.
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