Re: [Banshee-List] Replacement for current volume slider

[Aaron Bockover <abockover novell com>]

Sorry I'm late to this thread, but you are incorrect. The current volume
button is just as usable in terms of number of clicks as a slider that
would always be visible. The button supports dragging up/down to
immediately adjust the slider:

a) mouse down on the button
b) move mouse up/down to adjust
c) release mouse button to dismiss the slider popup

This functionality was very specially implemented exactly for this
reason. Additionally you can hover over the button and adjust the volume
with your scroll wheel.

I've updated the bug with this information and closed it as WONTFIX.

Cheers,
Aaron


On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 18:28 +0100, Christoph Burgdorf wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 03.02.2009, 01:00 +0800 schrieb Chow Loong Jin:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 17:55 +0100, Christoph Burgdorf wrote:
> > > Am Montag, den 02.02.2009, 09:54 -0500 schrieb Andrew Conkling:
> > > > 2009/2/2 Christoph Burgdorf <Christoph Burgdorf bvsn org>
> > > >         
> > > >         I meant the category of the bug. But I just looked and it's
> > > >         already set to enhancement. I must have overlooked that
> > > >         somehow.
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > > Ah, gotcha. Good deal. :)
> > > > 
> > > >         It would be interesting to know if a patch for that would be
> > > >         accepted if it was written (and quality is fine). Am I the
> > > >         only one who dislikes the current volume slider?
> > > >         
> > > >         
> > > > Doubtful; I've seen the question come up from time to time for
> > > > Banshee, Rhythmbox, and Totem. However, I've not seen any conclusive
> > > > arguments for it one way or the other; a lot of it revolves around
> > > > taste and opinion.
> > > 
> > > Well, I think adjusting the volume is one of the common things that a
> > > multimedia software should be able to handle easily. And its not only a
> > > queston of taste but also of usability. To adjust the volume with the
> > > current slider you will need two clicks and one dragging action while
> > > you would need only one dragging action with a horizontal slider. To see
> > > the current volume you need two clicks instead of zero clicks with a
> > > horizontal slider.
> > Ever tried scrolling while hovering over the button? I think it's cool
> > like that already =)
> > 
> > By the way, I suppose your first click is on the tray icon to get
> > Banshee to appear?
> 
> To be honest, I never tried that and Im glad you mentioned it. Maybe I
> will get used to it. But assuming you have no wheel on your mouse there
> are actually two possible ways:
> 
> 1. Click(MouseDown/MouseUp) on the volume symbol 
> 2. Drag the slider
> 3. Click anywhere to make the slider disappear
> 
> Or (less clicks but not intuitive)
> 
> 1. Click and hold down
> 2. drag the slider
> 3. Now release the left mouse button
> 
> The second method doesn't work with the volume control on the gnome-panel which made
> it invisble to me for so long.
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Ultimately, I'd think this would be the kind of thing that would
> > > > benefit from some HCI studies and should really start on a fundamental
> > > > GNOME level before being changed by individual applications;
> > > > consistency with the entire desktop has been the biggest argument
> > > > against such changes thus far.
> > > 
> > > I understand that, BUT with banshee 1.4 we have a OSX version ready
> > > while the windows version is on the way. I think banshee should also
> > > think outside the own box. Outside of the GNOME land I havent seen an
> > > audio/video player using something different than an horizontal slider.
> > > 
> > Ah, but Banshee is a GNOME app. And that makes all the difference.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, FWIW, I never use my Banshee/Rhythmbox/Totem sliders, ultimately
> > > > using the GNOME system volume control, via the panel applet and/or the
> > > > keyboard volume controls on my computer.
> > > > 
> > > For me, its the other way around. I mostly adjust the volume within
> > > banshee trying not to change the global system settings.
> > > 
> > I too usually adjust the global controls, and if ever I need to adjust
> > individual apps, I open pavucontrol. But that's just me using
> > PulseAudio. I understand that without PulseAudio you'd have to poke
> > around inside Banshee for volume control.
> > > Bye
> > > 
> > > Christoph
> > > 
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