Re: possible new sort option
- From: andré <andr55 laposte net>
- To: balsa-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: possible new sort option
- Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 01:29:05 -0400
Le 2018-08-05 à 18:11, Peter Bloomfield a écrit :
On 08/05/2018 12:16:03 PM Sun, Jack via balsa-list wrote:
Just for info, I did get a response to my message to JWZ. I'll
forward it later, but I think he agrees that it should be reasonable
to not try to thread messages which don't use the Response headers
properly (or at all, actually). Unfortunately, I think there are
enough still used mail readers that do this (not using Response) as
witnessed by many mailing list responses that lose threading in Pan,
which I am assuming is threading without just using Subject:.
I still need to work through the JWZ algorithm in detail to see if
there are other options, as he did point out this problem shows up in
the fallback stuff when there are no References.
Personally, I'd like to have the 'View' menu just offer a check-box for
'Thread messages', instead of the current radio-buttons 'Flat',
'Simple', and 'JWZ'. The *only* reason for 'Simple', to my mind, is that
it doesn't thread by subject, and I feel that that should be a
preference item for threading; other than that, JWZ is just a vastly
better algorithm. Jack has good reason for threading by subject, and I
find it more often a nuisance, so that's personal, and should be a
preference (possibly by folder--Ugh!). 'JWZ' is totally inscrutable to
new users, and I feel it would be good to drop it from the UI.
Just my 2¢…
Peter
I agree that sorting by the date of the last item in the thread makes
the most sense. That is at least an option (if not the default) for
Mozilla thunderbird/seamonkey.
From how JWZ describes his approach for mbox format, what
thunderbird/seamonkey does seems close, with small summary files and
large mbox files with many messages together.
I don't see the point of presenting that as an option separate from mbox.
A problem with threading by subject is that often (at least on the lists
I subscribe to) the subject is modified (at least a little), but the
thread continues on essentially the same topic.
Although having a reply-to address in the header is definitely
preferable for mailing lists, I don't see how that has much affect on
threads, except that from time to time a reply doesn't go directly to
the list, but appears in a subsequent message with a reply to the reply.
my 2¢
--
André
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