Re: error sending message

[Bryan Butler <bbutler aoc nrao edu>]

OK - i found my problem.  our sysfolk have been tinkering with our
telnet service this morning, in preparation for turning it off
completely (moving over to entirely SSH).  we had been warned about
this, but i had forgotten :(...  so, i happened to send that one
email when they had the telnet service turned off (localhost:25
is a telnet connection to the SMTP server).  i think this clears up
the mystery (for me, at least).

	-bryan butler
	 associate scientist
	 national radio astronomy observatory


On 2002.05.28 09:44 Bryan Butler wrote:
> 
> thanks for the reply, paulo.
> 
> On 2002.05.28 09:33 Paulo Andre' wrote:
> > Hi Bryan,
> > 
> > On 2002.05.28 15:30 Bryan Butler wrote:
> > > 
> > > i just got the following message when trying to send an email:
> > > 
> > > Message submission problem, placing it into your outbox. System will
> > > attempt to resubmit the message until you delete it.
> > > 
> > > could somebody please tell me which conditions trigger this message?
> > 
> > AFAIK, that's happening because there's some problem going on with your 
> > smtp server. Check Settings > Preferences > Mail Servers and then the 
> > 'Remote SMTP Server' under 'Outgoing Mail'. Make sure your are using a 
> > functional and correct SMTP address and specifying the right port 
> > (usually 25). So, it should look like this:
> > 
> > mail.isp.com:25
> > 
> > Where 'mail.isp.com' is the SMTP server of you ISP and '25' is the port 
> > where it lives.
> 
> this does not seem to be the problem - i've been sending other
> emails with no problem this morning - it just failed on the one.
> FWIW, my remote SMTP server is simply 'localhost:25', which works.
> very strange that only the one email failed - this is why i was
> wondering specifically which conditions trigger that message...
> 
> > 
> > > also, what is the frequency and duration of the resubmissions?
> > 
> > I don't think messages placed in the outbox get automatically re-sent.  
> > But maybe they are resubmitted when you automatically check for new 
> > mail in which you can set the frequency in Settings > Preferences > 
> > Mail Options.
> 
> then the message should be changed, i guess, since it implies that
> the message will be automatically resubmitted.
> 
> > 
> > > i'm using 1.2.4 (yes, yes, i *know* it's outdated - somebody *please*
> > > make a newer _stable_ release, OK?).
> > 
> > Well, the latest 1.3 versions are quite stabled despite this and that 
> > bug, but nothing serious, no show stoppers. You might want to try it 
> > out and see for yourself :-)
> 
> our sysadmins will not install anything that is not officially a 'stable'
> release.  i have newer versions on my own computers, but for work, i
> don't have the luxury of installing whatever i want - i have to rely on
> our sysfolk.  until one of the 1.3.x versions gets blessed as 'stable',
> i will be stuck with 1.2.4 at work :(...
> 
> 
> 	-bryan butler
> 	 associate scientist
> 	 national radio astronomy observatory
> 
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