GNOME.Asia IRC Meeting Minutes ( March 15, 2011)



Hi all,
         Sorry for delayed posting.

1) Update for business session
   - Brian is ready to moderate business session
   - Lanedo, EDF and Ryan will join for session
   - Intel, Novell and Igalia won't be joining
   - Pockey said we need in total 4 talks + 1 bof

AI to BLUG_Fred to make lists of participants for biz and collab sessions

2) Call for volunteers
    Bharath updated we have a team from the college, they just need tasks now and the posters to distribute in colleges

3) Student training
    - Apr 1 will be the training as it will make easy for students to have training and conference in continuation
    - Fred will shift 'Distribution collaboration' on some other date, may be during hackfest days

4) AI: Local team to enquire and publish details about tour + party for hackfest attendees. Party budget at 30USD per person, but to suggest the best possible place.
    - Srag is trying to push Intel to sponsor hackfest party

5) AI: Local team to get some media to cover the event
    - Chandni sent email about media sponsors

6) Pockey updated with budget details
    - Our revenue becomes like around $25K
    - Our cost so far is 5,700 for event organization, 13,300 for travel subsidy
   -  Our profit so far is ~$5,700

    Conference bags will be made, need to be ordered in India

7) Call for MCs and call for exhibitors
    - for exhibitors, we will have at least gnome (managed by sakana and wers ), mozilla, novell
    - In GNOME booth, we will have demo of GNOME 3.0 and video taping participants who come to the booth
    - emily has contacted the Oracle/SUN Indian team but hasn't got any confirmation
    - emily asked for a slot for Sun/Oracle Indian engineers Slot will be provided for GNOME related topic.

8) AI we still have to contact local communities for : advertise our event, invite them to man a booth
   - no update

9) Misc
   - lakhil said due to cricket world cup final, we should try to end first day conference (April 2) by 3 PM
   - pockeylam will restrict talk time to 45 mins / talk

Please add if i miss anything.

Thanks,
Akhil
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Mar 15 19:34:19 <pockeylam>	emily, ok, next time then. so lakhil do you have time to write meeting notes today? :-) 
Mar 15 19:34:38 <lakhil>	will do
Mar 15 19:34:41 <pockeylam>	i have started at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/Minutes/20110315
Mar 15 19:34:42 <pockeylam>	lakhil, thanks :)
Mar 15 19:34:50 <pockeylam>	so let's start our meeting
Mar 15 19:35:00 <pockeylam>	# Previous action items update 
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Mar 15 19:36:13 <BLUG_Fred>	ok. so we're starting?
Mar 15 19:36:17 <yippi>	hi
Mar 15 19:36:23 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, yes
Mar 15 19:36:24 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, please give an update on who has confirmed to talk for the business sessions? 
Mar 15 19:36:28 <pockeylam>	yippi, hi
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Mar 15 19:37:20 <BLUG_Fred>	I didn't do my 2 AIs, though I did other things 
Mar 15 19:37:30 <BLUG_Fred>	but not that
Mar 15 19:37:35 <pockeylam>	yippi, there will be a BOF for the business sessions on April 1st, we will need someone from the GNOME Foundation to moderate, do u think you can be the moderator / the host? 
Mar 15 19:38:02 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, so, please follow up
Mar 15 19:38:28 <pockeylam>	yippi, initial schedule can be found at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/2011Summit/BusinessSessions
Mar 15 19:38:53 <yippi>	i am happy to moderate
Mar 15 19:39:01 <yippi>	and provide any other services you guys need
Mar 15 19:39:04 <yippi>	just don't double book me
Mar 15 19:39:12 <pockeylam>	yippi, great (i thought you would be as well, so i put your name already :)
Mar 15 19:39:23 <pockeylam>	yippi, great, no problem, will keep you posted as well 
Mar 15 19:39:38 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil any update on call for volunteers?
Mar 15 19:39:54 <BLUG_Fred>	pockeylam: Lanedo, EDF
Mar 15 19:40:10 <BLUG_Fred>	pockeylam: I think Ryan could join as well
Mar 15 19:40:21 <lakhil>	pockeylam, nothing from my side
Mar 15 19:40:42 <abharath>	pockeylam: we have a team from the college, they just need tasks now and the posters to distribute in colleges
Mar 15 19:40:42 <BLUG_Fred>	pockeylam: then we can surely ask big names like Novell or Oracle if we think it's relevant for the local industry
Mar 15 19:40:57 <srag>	hello guys
Mar 15 19:41:04 <BLUG_Fred>	it would be nice to have as much diversity as possible
Mar 15 19:41:12 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, great, so three smaller companies
Mar 15 19:41:20 <pockeylam>	abharath, excellent :)
Mar 15 19:41:24 <BLUG_Fred>	no one from Igalia is going to make it apparently
Mar 15 19:41:32 <BLUG_Fred>	they hardly answer my emails :(
Mar 15 19:41:33 <BLUG_Fred>	yes
Mar 15 19:41:55 <pockeylam>	abharath, anybody from novell is interested to give a talk about running gnome business?
Mar 15 19:42:24 <pockeylam>	abharath, e.g. topics like Building products using GNOME , Creating value using GNOME technologies
Mar 15 19:42:52 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, got it, but three smallers companies plus 1 big one is fine, we need in total 4 talks + 1 bof
Mar 15 19:43:00 <abharath>	pockeylam: nope. we do not have any people from the Business side of it in Novell India
Mar 15 19:43:00 <BLUG_Fred>	lakhil: nothing as in no one is interested, or no time spent on it?
Mar 15 19:43:07 <pockeylam>	abharath, ok
Mar 15 19:43:24 <lakhil>	BLUG_Fred, abharath has already contacted college so i didn't do anything there
Mar 15 19:43:40 <lakhil>	so no update from my side
Mar 15 19:43:55 <pockeylam>	srag, how about intel?
Mar 15 19:44:12 <pockeylam>	srag,  anybody from Intel is interested to give a talk about running gnome business?
Mar 15 19:44:33 <srag>	pockeylam, expect me at Intel India, I don't know anyone else ;-)
Mar 15 19:44:35 <pockeylam>	if not, three talks are fine too...
Mar 15 19:44:39 <pockeylam>	srag, fine :)
Mar 15 19:44:49 <pockeylam>	so we will have three talks plus 1 bof then
Mar 15 19:44:51 <BLUG_Fred>	i don't know if anyone will come from Intel
Mar 15 19:44:58 <pockeylam>	if we found one more later, we can always add one more
Mar 15 19:45:06 <BLUG_Fred>	i need to ping ebassi but the people financing haven't replied at all
Mar 15 19:46:00 <pockeylam>	abharath, so you are printing posters?
Mar 15 19:46:09 <pockeylam>	abharath, is the file ok?
Mar 15 19:46:13 <abharath>	pockeylam: yes sending you the Novell logo
Mar 15 19:46:17 <pockeylam>	another AI: Local team to enquire and publish details about tour + party for hackfest attendees. Party budget at 30USD per person, but to suggest the best possible place. 
Mar 15 19:46:33 <abharath>	if you update the poster, I'll mail it to them tonight
Mar 15 19:46:36 <pockeylam>	abharath, ok, so let's wait until putting novell logo then :)
Mar 15 19:46:53 <pockeylam>	abharath, ok, after this meeting, i will add the logo
Mar 15 19:46:59 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure
Mar 15 19:47:00 <lakhil>	we have pinged srag to ask Intel for party :)
Mar 15 19:47:17 <pockeylam>	lakhil, haha, intel has a party room to offer us?
Mar 15 19:47:20 <srag>	I'm still checking on that
Mar 15 19:47:32 <srag>	not a room for party, but can be a party sponsor.
Mar 15 19:47:37 <lakhil>	pockeylam, Intel will pay us :)
Mar 15 19:47:43 <BLUG_Fred>	great job on the sponsor guys btw
Mar 15 19:47:52 <srag>	Im still working on that
Mar 15 19:48:04 <pockeylam>	srag, it will be a dinner party right after we finished the 2nd day of conference
Mar 15 19:48:08 <pockeylam>	srag, thanks
Mar 15 19:48:12 <BLUG_Fred>	we got a few new smaller sponsors for hosting (a vps in HK) and the conference site design/functionalities
Mar 15 19:48:17 <pockeylam>	another AI: Local team to get some media to cover the event - Deadline next meeting on 15 March 
Mar 15 19:48:39 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil yeah, great job on Novell :)
Mar 15 19:49:08 <abharath>	pockeylam: for the media sponsors, Chandni sent me a mail a minute back. I'll finish reading it and get back :)
Mar 15 19:49:35 <srag>	pockeylam, I'll update you guys offline. Im still pushing for that
Mar 15 19:49:54 <abharath>	also lakhil also mailed a few experts in the media, don't know if they responded
Mar 15 19:50:16 <lakhil>	nope, haven't got any reply from a reporter who live in Goa
Mar 15 19:50:19 <pockeylam>	lakhil, for student training, have we opened registration yet? 
Mar 15 19:50:23 <pockeylam>	lakhil, if we have a quota of 100 students, should we give some percentage of seats to Dayananda Sagar Educational Institution ?
Mar 15 19:50:33 <lakhil>	we have opened and i mentioned in email as well
Mar 15 19:51:05 <lakhil>	pockeylam, till 20th we will see how many students from other colleges register 
Mar 15 19:51:13 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil, since the initial idea is to return a gift by giving a training to their students in exchange for free venue
Mar 15 19:51:20 <pockeylam>	srag, lakhil, wow, intel will sponsor the party? 
Mar 15 19:51:24 <lakhil>	remaining we can give to Dayananda Sagar 
Mar 15 19:51:29 <pockeylam>	srag, lakhil be our custom sponsor? :-) 
Mar 15 19:52:03 <pockeylam>	abharath, thanks :)
Mar 15 19:52:05 <pockeylam>	srag, nice :)
Mar 15 19:52:29 <lakhil>	Can we have student training on Apr 1 so people who are coming from outside Bangalore will find it easy ?
Mar 15 19:52:41 <pockeylam>	lakhil, i think it's fine to limit to 100 students for 1 day of training :) that's why I initially planned
Mar 15 19:52:50 <BLUG_Fred>	lakhil: that would be conflicting with the business session
Mar 15 19:53:01 <pockeylam>	lakhil, ok, let's wait until 20th March then
Mar 15 19:53:02 <BLUG_Fred>	lakhil: i think abharath is participating in both
Mar 15 19:53:19 <BLUG_Fred>	lakhil: that was the initial reason discussed when we decided on the dates
Mar 15 19:53:36 <BLUG_Fred>	oops, not the business session
Mar 15 19:53:48 <BLUG_Fred>	the distribution collaboration session maybe
Mar 15 19:53:48 <BLUG_Fred>	sorry
Mar 15 19:53:48 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: :) you confusing two things I suppose :)
Mar 15 19:53:48 <pockeylam>	distribution meetings
Mar 15 19:53:57 <lakhil>	BLUG_Fred, three days in continue for student will help in their classes and budget
Mar 15 19:54:15 <BLUG_Fred>	i just remember there were conflicts
Mar 15 19:54:22 <pockeylam>	yes, there were conflicts
Mar 15 19:54:30 <abharath>	The student training will be on Apr 1, then they can attend Apr 2,3 conference
Mar 15 19:54:34 <abharath>	oh what conflicts?
Mar 15 19:54:47 <pockeylam>	abharath, u will join the distribution collaboration session, no?
Mar 15 19:55:22 <abharath>	pockeylam: oh what's that :D Did I miss any discussions?
Mar 15 19:55:25 <pockeylam>	abharath, BLUG_Fred is arranging different reps of different distributions to meet and talk about collaboration
Mar 15 19:55:54 <pockeylam>	abharath, fred mentioned it before
Mar 15 19:56:02 <wers>	oh wow
Mar 15 19:56:03 <abharath>	oh :) I would love to be there, but Vincent is there anyways for openSUSE
Mar 15 19:56:18 <wers>	what distros have reps already?
Mar 15 19:56:25 <lakhil>	if people who are participating in distribution collaboration session are mostly from hackfest guys, we can schedule it during March 31 as well 
Mar 15 19:56:27 <abharath>	Debian and openSUSE
Mar 15 19:56:27 <pockeylam>	wers, you wake up? ;)
Mar 15 19:56:36 <abharath>	lakhil: +1
Mar 15 19:56:38 <BLUG_Fred>	abharath: you told me you were doing the work on SLED (and not Stefan)
Mar 15 19:56:46 <wers>	pockeylam, always been (today, at least :D)
Mar 15 19:57:01 <lakhil>	wers, you can represent Ubuntu
Mar 15 19:57:18 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: ah ah ok :) The work on SLED yes :)
Mar 15 19:57:30 <lakhil>	BLUG_Fred, will it be different session than the session which happened on similar lines 1 month back ?
Mar 15 19:57:33 <wers>	lakhil, let's see :D
Mar 15 19:57:46 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: can we move that session to say Mar 31 ?
Mar 15 19:57:51 <abharath>	If its feasible
Mar 15 19:57:54 <BLUG_Fred>	note to all: i'm getting everyone's messages very late.. so expect a delay in my responses
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Mar 15 19:58:32 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: But for the student training whatever I am handling is very basic :) so anyone else can take it up too
Mar 15 19:58:34 <pockeylam>	let's check who will attend
Mar 15 19:58:57 <pockeylam>	and let's try to arrange the student training on April 1st if possible to match with the conference day
Mar 15 19:58:58 <pockeylam>	s
Mar 15 19:58:59 <abharath>	yeah we can sort it out after the meeting and send a mail to the list. sounds good?
Mar 15 19:59:07 <pockeylam>	abharath, excellent :)
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Mar 15 19:59:19 <BLUG_Fred>	lakhil: i need to check but I think one of the participant is coming from Friday to Sunday.. Friday being for that session
Mar 15 19:59:36 <pockeylam>	BLUG_Fred, please check and let us know later 
Mar 15 19:59:45 <BLUG_Fred>	well let's add an AI to BLUG_Fred to make lists of participants for biz and collab sessions
Mar 15 19:59:50 <BLUG_Fred>	we'll see clearer
Mar 15 20:00:01 <pockeylam>	great
Mar 15 20:00:13 <pockeylam>	lakhil, while for student trainings, we will open registration on march 20, right?
Mar 15 20:00:33 <abharath>	pockeylam: Its already open :)
Mar 15 20:00:35 <pockeylam>	lakhil, will it be too late?
Mar 15 20:00:37 <lakhil>	pockeylam, we have opened already, if you go to registration page, you can see
Mar 15 20:00:44 <pockeylam>	lakhil, ohh
Mar 15 20:00:46 <pockeylam>	lakhil, let me check
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Mar 15 20:05:34 <abharath>	pockeylam: and in your next blog update you can update all the details we have
Mar 15 20:05:39 <lakhil_>	sorry guys, laptop hanged :(
Mar 15 20:05:45 <abharath>	pockeylam: yes I will do that, but please blog about it :)
Mar 15 20:05:48 <pockeylam>	lakhil, no problem
Mar 15 20:06:00 <pockeylam>	abharath, no problem, will blog about our udpates this week :)
Mar 15 20:06:04 <pockeylam>	next item: # Call for Local Sponsors update 
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Mar 15 20:06:06 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure
Mar 15 20:06:15 <lakhil_>	if anyone haven't noticed , just for the note - i have added delegate fee + t-shirt also as one registration option which will cost around $22
Mar 15 20:06:28 <BLUG_Fred>	as I mentioned we've secured a VPS from a company based in Beijing
Mar 15 20:06:29 <abharath>	lakhil_: I noticed :D
Mar 15 20:06:33 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil_ again, we are very happy that novell becomes our bronze plus plus sponsor :)
Mar 15 20:06:41 <BLUG_Fred>	they are working on it right now, hopefully it should be ready soon
Mar 15 20:06:49 <BLUG_Fred>	(got the acceptance middle of yesterday)
Mar 15 20:06:54 <lakhil_>	pockeylam, welcome and thanks to Novell IDC leadership
Mar 15 20:07:04 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: VPS is good for us for the long run
Mar 15 20:07:19 <pockeylam>	lakhil_, please thank them, and please invite them all to join the conference ;) 
Mar 15 20:07:40 <lakhil_>	pockeylam, we can invite only 2 :D
Mar 15 20:07:43 <abharath>	pockeylam: the number of people coming from Novell not enough?
Mar 15 20:07:44 <abharath>	:P
Mar 15 20:07:48 <abharath>	lakhil_: lol
Mar 15 20:08:00 <abharath>	others have to register yes :D as per the sponsorship document :D
Mar 15 20:08:57 <pockeylam>	lakhil_, abharath it's okay, novell needs to take care of two booths, so they can send more :)
Mar 15 20:09:06 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil_ and speakers don't count :)
Mar 15 20:09:18 <pockeylam>	so now our revenue becomes like around $25K
Mar 15 20:09:51 <pockeylam>	and our cost so far is 5,700 for event organization, 13,300 for travel subsidy
Mar 15 20:10:01 <pockeylam>	our profit so far is ~$5,700
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Mar 15 20:10:15 <abharath>	pockeylam: neat
Mar 15 20:10:20 <pockeylam>	let's continue and look for more sponsors or participants :)
Mar 15 20:11:01 <pockeylam>	but we are really doing a good job so far, thanks to abharath BLUG_Fred lakhil_ emily 
Mar 15 20:11:19 <pockeylam>	next agenda item # Public registration status update 
Mar 15 20:11:20 <emily>	<pockeylam>? Are we planning to produce some conference bags or T-Shirts ? Since we have enough budgte ? 
Mar 15 20:11:29 <pockeylam>	emily, yes on conference bags
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Mar 15 20:11:34 <emily>	great 
Mar 15 20:11:53 <emily>	I think it is meaningful and memorable to have something from the conference 
Mar 15 20:11:57 <lakhil_>	pockeylam, Can we distribute free t-shirts to all the participants who are registering online ? That way we give them benefit of registration. While we distribute free passes later, we won't give them t-shirt. 
Mar 15 20:12:01 <pockeylam>	emily, so our sponsors can put leaflets or cds inside
Mar 15 20:12:05 <pockeylam>	emily, we can give away button badges?
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Mar 15 20:12:11 <pockeylam>	emily, instead? 
Mar 15 20:12:24 <pockeylam>	if possible, let's keep some money for next year :-) 
Mar 15 20:12:24 <emily>	badges looks great 
Mar 15 20:12:42 <pockeylam>	emily, yeah, let's give away pins
Mar 15 20:12:45 <emily>	OK, sure 
Mar 15 20:13:30 <lakhil_>	pockeylam, conference bags will made in China or locally in India ?
Mar 15 20:13:30 <emily>	pockeylam: do we have enough speakers and slots ? 
Mar 15 20:13:37 <pockeylam>	lakhil_, in india
Mar 15 20:13:39 <abharath>	pockeylam: I would recommend free t-shirts to people registering online. People value t-shirts more than conference bags (my view)
Mar 15 20:13:41 <emily>	can we add more speakers ? at the last minutes ? 
Mar 15 20:13:42 <pockeylam>	lakhil_, conference bags are very heavy to ship 
Mar 15 20:14:12 <BLUG_Fred>	i think we should keep at least 10% as cash flow if possible
Mar 15 20:14:14 <pockeylam>	abharath, we don't give tshirts for free , we didn't give tshirts to participants last year neither...
Mar 15 20:14:30 <BLUG_Fred>	t-shirt sales benefits should go to the gnome foundation and not GNOME.Asia
Mar 15 20:14:40 <BLUG_Fred>	nor in '09
Mar 15 20:14:42 <pockeylam>	abharath, but we will give tshirts to speakers / MCs / working committee
Mar 15 20:14:58 <pockeylam>	abharath, they come for the conference, not for the tshirts :)
Mar 15 20:15:02 <lakhil_>	pockeylam, in India, foss.in used to give
Mar 15 20:15:19 <BLUG_Fred>	well, we don't
Mar 15 20:15:22 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: not the t-shirts that we plan to sell. The others that we plan to print locally. No loss, no profit. People like sporting GNOME T-shirts
Mar 15 20:15:30 <BLUG_Fred>	unless we really do good with sponsors
Mar 15 20:15:34 <BLUG_Fred>	how much are we talking about?
Mar 15 20:15:40 <BLUG_Fred>	1000 x ?
Mar 15 20:15:45 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil_, yes, how much are we talking about? :)
Mar 15 20:16:01 <abharath>	lakhil_: about 400 - 500?
Mar 15 20:16:06 <lakhil_>	depends on how many people register online
Mar 15 20:16:06 <BLUG_Fred>	we don't print t-shirt for free.. that's extra load and we're struggling to do what we have to do
Mar 15 20:16:37 <lakhil_>	should be around 300 - 400 i guess
Mar 15 20:16:37 <pockeylam>	lakhil_, and it's very troublesome to sell tshirts on the spot...
Mar 15 20:16:42 <pockeylam>	to collect money... the change
Mar 15 20:17:26 <BLUG_Fred>	and we need trust worthy volunteers
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Mar 15 20:20:38 <abharath>	pockeylam: Rs 200 ($ 4.44)
Mar 15 20:20:56 <BLUG_Fred>	abharath: nice quality or cheapest quality?
Mar 15 20:21:05 <lakhil>	nice quality
Mar 15 20:21:10 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: the thickest material from the vendor
Mar 15 20:21:19 <BLUG_Fred>	it means it's extra load on you guys, and someone needs to manage
Mar 15 20:21:24 <pockeylam>	abharath, lakhil, if u think tshirts can help to boost registration, why not :)
Mar 15 20:21:49 <BLUG_Fred>	i'm still waiting for nice photos of the venue since... early this year, so I m not sure it's such a good idea to add work load
Mar 15 20:22:00 <pockeylam>	what do others think? 
Mar 15 20:22:27 <pockeylam>	abharath, can we make less than 400?
Mar 15 20:22:59 <abharath>	pockeylam: we have the option to yes
Mar 15 20:23:04 <wers>	pockeylam, you mean less than Rs 200?
Mar 15 20:23:13 <abharath>	wers: the quantity
Mar 15 20:23:15 <pockeylam>	wers, abharath, i mean quantity :)
Mar 15 20:23:21 <wers>	ok
Mar 15 20:23:26 <pockeylam>	MOQ , minimum order quantity
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Mar 15 20:23:57 <BLUG_Fred>	but then it doesn't really make sense to sell the 50 extra t-shirts if we give them away @ registration
Mar 15 20:23:59 <wers>	+1 about the load. that's additional logistics 
Mar 15 20:24:11 <BLUG_Fred>	i'm a bit confused about our 'strategy'
Mar 15 20:25:12 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: ok what's the strategy? To sell 50 t-shirts saying support the Foundation right?
Mar 15 20:25:23 <abharath>	Those would be other designs anyway
Mar 15 20:25:34 <BLUG_Fred>	i personally prefer to sell some t-shirt and give money to gnome, than give t-shirts away and spend more
Mar 15 20:25:42 <BLUG_Fred>	abharath: yes
Mar 15 20:26:22 <BLUG_Fred>	raise money for the foundation, educate  our audience about how free software project work and take care of developers work through hackfest and conferences
Mar 15 20:27:49 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: sure. We'll get them printed separately. We always do
Mar 15 20:28:03 <lakhil>	tshirt will have logos to our sponsors which will be like advertising which we mention in our sponsorship document
Mar 15 20:28:16 <abharath>	at the conference, we would sell only to support the Foundation
Mar 15 20:28:17 <BLUG_Fred>	i don't see what having them printed separately changes
Mar 15 20:28:20 <BLUG_Fred>	ah?
Mar 15 20:29:40 <BLUG_Fred>	i don't understand why you're so much into t-shirts when i see all the work left to be done...
Mar 15 20:29:49 <pockeylam>	lakhil, it's not mentioned in call for sponsor
Mar 15 20:29:55 <lakhil>	anyway we can leave this topic and move to next agenda
Mar 15 20:29:59 <BLUG_Fred>	it seems to be such a small details compared to our goals
Mar 15 20:30:15 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: we aren't :) we want to move to the other agenda items and get the AI off the list sooner
Mar 15 20:30:23 <pockeylam>	lakhil, ok, let's move to another item :)
Mar 15 20:30:29 <wers>	okay. moving on to the bigger fish to fry
Mar 15 20:30:29 <abharath>	sure :)
Mar 15 20:30:35 <pockeylam>	call for MCs and call for exhibitors
Mar 15 20:31:11 <pockeylam>	for exhibitors, we will have at least gnome (managed by sakana and wers ), mozilla, novell 
Mar 15 20:31:17 <pockeylam>	emily, oracle will have booth
Mar 15 20:31:18 <pockeylam>	?
Mar 15 20:31:19 <BLUG_Fred>	i'd rather put some money in a nice opening ceremony with some cultural or artistic performance for example 
Mar 15 20:32:07 <emily>	<pockeylam>: I have contact the Oracle/SUN indian team  
Mar 15 20:32:10 <BLUG_Fred>	(and I'm not talking about the abharath dance ;-) )
Mar 15 20:32:25 <emily>	<pockeylam>: They are not clear SUN/Oracle will work for the booth 
Mar 15 20:32:28 <emily>	Still dicuss 
Mar 15 20:32:30 <pockeylam>	emily, gold sponsor is entitled to have booth :)
Mar 15 20:32:33 <pockeylam>	emily, ok
Mar 15 20:32:38 <pockeylam>	emily, just let us know later then 
Mar 15 20:32:41 <emily>	I will keep you update if I have anyting new 
Mar 15 20:32:56 <BLUG_Fred>	any progress on getting local communities to run a booth at the conference then?
Mar 15 20:33:01 <pockeylam>	abharath, we need to invite floss communities for exhbitions?
Mar 15 20:33:05 <emily>	Is it still possible to have speach slot for Sun/Oracle Indian engineers ? <pockeylam>
Mar 15 20:33:23 <pockeylam>	emily, for our gold sponsor... :)
Mar 15 20:33:24 <pockeylam>	emily, to talk bout?
Mar 15 20:33:32 <emily>	technical talks 
Mar 15 20:33:35 <emily>	I am not sure rigjt 
Mar 15 20:33:40 <BLUG_Fred>	emily: gnome topics?
Mar 15 20:33:43 <emily>	Still contact them ... 
Mar 15 20:33:44 <emily>	yes 
Mar 15 20:33:46 <emily>	GNOME team 
Mar 15 20:33:52 <BLUG_Fred>	because Oracle DB is not really... on the agenda ;-)
Mar 15 20:34:01 <pockeylam>	emily, please ask them then, gold sponsor... i have to squeeze
Mar 15 20:34:02 <abharath>	BLUG_Fred: ;)
Mar 15 20:34:09 <BLUG_Fred>	sure.. GNOME is great
Mar 15 20:34:14 <BLUG_Fred>	i mean GNOME talks
Mar 15 20:34:24 <emily>	I will try and update to team if I have anything new 
Mar 15 20:34:29 <abharath>	pockeylam: no we'll put out the invite on the GNOME.Asia page for the communities
Mar 15 20:34:36 <pockeylam>	emily, and long term gold sponsor supporter, i have to squeeze the timeslot for u 
Mar 15 20:34:51 <lakhil>	pockeylam, you can free my slot any time :)
Mar 15 20:34:55 <BLUG_Fred>	abharath: we talked about that already
Mar 15 20:35:16 <BLUG_Fred>	by the time they find out about the website it'll be too late
Mar 15 20:35:17 <pockeylam>	abharath, please do, because we can have a lot of booths
Mar 15 20:35:23 <BLUG_Fred>	we need to be forth coming
Mar 15 20:35:31 <pockeylam>	lakhil, haha, you wish :)
Mar 15 20:35:44 <lakhil>	do we have any small write up which can be sent ?
Mar 15 20:36:41 <lakhil>	We had sent registration information to more than 20 LUGs, i think we can contact same LUGs for booth if they are interested in any booth
Mar 15 20:36:43 <BLUG_Fred>	we should really be contacting the local foss communities now
Mar 15 20:36:43 <abharath>	lakhil: wish there was a feed update on the blog :( but that's ok. We would have in the future :)
Mar 15 20:36:46 <pockeylam>	lakhil, it's just a call for exhibitors 
Mar 15 20:36:53 <BLUG_Fred>	conference is in 2 weeks
Mar 15 20:36:59 <pockeylam>	lakhil, just write an email and put all the information there
Mar 15 20:37:08 <BLUG_Fred>	time to find 2 poor souls to run their booth might be too short already
Mar 15 20:37:16 <BLUG_Fred>	especially with the cricket final
Mar 15 20:37:48 <lakhil>	pockeylam, any theme for booth in particular ?
Mar 15 20:37:59 <pockeylam>	lakhil, any debian india team? any open suse community team?
Mar 15 20:38:10 <pockeylam>	lakhil, gnome and floss communities 
Mar 15 20:38:18 <pockeylam>	lakhil, including any floss projects communities
Mar 15 20:38:21 <pockeylam>	lakhil, not companies
Mar 15 20:38:48 <pockeylam>	lakhil, to show the communities side , to give local supports
Mar 15 20:39:17 *	BLUG_fred2 (c2ce3f5d ircip1 mibbit com) has joined #asia-summit
Mar 15 20:39:23 <pockeylam>	lakhil, exhibitors are free to join our event as well :)
Mar 15 20:39:27 <lakhil>	pockeylam, opensuse community will have SuSE studio booth
Mar 15 20:40:04 <BLUG_fred2>	there is FSF India also
Mar 15 20:40:09 <BLUG_fred2>	where are they based?
Mar 15 20:40:16 <BLUG_fred2>	we should send them an invitation
Mar 15 20:41:09 <pockeylam>	lakhil, u can send me the drafted email later, i can help to review if you want :)
Mar 15 20:41:26 <BLUG_fred2>	we should also contact them to list our conference
Mar 15 20:42:02 <pockeylam>	there are still some other AIs , let's check http://live.gnome.org/GnomeAsia/2011Summit/CheckList
Mar 15 20:42:02 <pockeylam>	and follow our timeline :)
Mar 15 20:42:54 <BLUG_fred2>	do you guys have contacts with FSF India?
Mar 15 20:42:58 <pockeylam>	anything else we want to discuss?
Mar 15 20:43:01 <pockeylam>	anybody has other points to make before the end of the meeting?
Mar 15 20:43:04 <BLUG_fred2>	how are they perceived?
Mar 15 20:43:09 <pockeylam>	abharath, please send me novell logo
Mar 15 20:43:11 <BLUG_fred2>	yes wers has something to ask
Mar 15 20:43:13 <pockeylam>	abharath, i will do the poster right away
Mar 15 20:43:15 <wers>	uhm. what's the GNOME exhibition?
Mar 15 20:43:16 <lakhil>	BLUG_Fred, Thiruvanathapuram, Kerala, FSF India
Mar 15 20:43:21 <wers>	that sakana and I will man?
Mar 15 20:43:24 <wers>	is this the video thing?
Mar 15 20:43:25 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure
Mar 15 20:43:34 <abharath>	wers: nope :)
Mar 15 20:43:36 <lakhil>	I pointed out in last meeting that Apr 2 is cricket world cup final which will start at 2:30 pm (IST) so when we plan for conferece schedule, we should take that in account and if possible, we should schedule talk till 3 pm only for Apr 2. Other wise it will be hard to keep audience motivated when cricket match is going on and that is also world cup final which comes once in 4 years.
Mar 15 20:43:39 <sakana>	wers: ^^
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Mar 15 20:44:26 <wers>	?
Mar 15 20:44:33 <BLUG_fred2>	wers: yes me too
Mar 15 20:44:40 <BLUG_fred2>	lakhil: i have problems with that
Mar 15 20:44:46 <wers>	sakana, ?
Mar 15 20:44:56 <pockeylam>	wers, we will have a GNOME booth, to demo gnome 3.0
Mar 15 20:44:58 <BLUG_fred2>	^^
Mar 15 20:45:06 <lakhil>	BLUG_fred2, gp ahead
Mar 15 20:45:09 <lakhil>	*go
Mar 15 20:45:16 <pockeylam>	wers, and we talked about video taping participants who come to the booth :)
Mar 15 20:45:19 <pockeylam>	wers, remember?
Mar 15 20:45:22 <wers>	pockeylam, ooh ok. I thought, that's the one with will
Mar 15 20:45:28 <wers>	pockeylam, ooh. so it's the video thing
Mar 15 20:45:38 <BLUG_fred2>	lakhil: well maybe people will be coming all the way, i don't think it's reasonable to expect them to stop for the cricket
Mar 15 20:45:47 <wers>	so it's the gnome 3.0 demo and the video thing. ok
Mar 15 20:45:53 <lakhil>	BLUG_fred2, it's quite possible in India
Mar 15 20:45:59 <BLUG_fred2>	it's 'our' mistake and if there are less people, well at least we'll be talking to motivated souls...
Mar 15 20:46:00 <pockeylam>	lakhil, .... so we should have our talks like 45 mins / talk
Mar 15 20:46:09 <lakhil>	and if Indian team is there in final, you won't find anybody in conference
Mar 15 20:46:16 <pockeylam>	wers, yeah, it's video thing + a booth to demo gnome 3.0 
Mar 15 20:46:25 <wers>	pockeylam, ok. understood
Mar 15 20:46:30 <pockeylam>	wers, we have banner, a few computers, we make a booth to showcase gnome 3.0
Mar 15 20:46:31 <pockeylam>	wers, :)
Mar 15 20:46:55 <wers>	pockeylam, cool. we'll show them how awesome GNOME 3.0 is :D
Mar 15 20:47:00 <sakana>	.
Mar 15 20:47:07 <pockeylam>	wers, yep
Mar 15 20:47:16 <pockeylam>	lakhil, shit...
Mar 15 20:47:35 <pockeylam>	we should have 1 day conference haha
Mar 15 20:47:48 <lakhil>	1.5 days to be precise :)
Mar 15 20:48:05 <pockeylam>	lakhil, ok, i try to squeeze then....
Mar 15 20:48:07 <wers>	the .5 will be an advance bof
Mar 15 20:48:22 <pockeylam>	wers, we don't plan any bof so far...
Mar 15 20:48:28 <wers>	oki
Mar 15 20:48:40 <pockeylam>	wers, anyway, no participants will join.... as lakhil mentioned...
Mar 15 20:48:52 <pockeylam>	lakhil, i will do my best to squeeze, but let's plan for 45 mins / talk
Mar 15 20:48:58 <pockeylam>	 instead of 1 hour
Mar 15 20:49:01 <pockeylam>	is it ok for everybody?
Mar 15 20:49:22 <lakhil>	+1
Mar 15 20:49:42 <pockeylam>	ok 
Mar 15 20:49:45 <pockeylam>	so anything else?
Mar 15 20:49:48 <abharath>	pockeylam: also we decided to ask the speakers if they need 30 min or 1 hour slot
Mar 15 20:49:57 <abharath>	suggested by BLUG_fred2
Mar 15 20:50:03 <abharath>	anything on that?
Mar 15 20:50:12 <pockeylam>	abharath, but at the end, i remember someone suggested 1 hour
Mar 15 20:50:16 <pockeylam>	abharath, i think it's lakhil :)
Mar 15 20:50:19 <BLUG_fred2>	abharath: that was when we through Intel, Red Hat and Igalia would come
Mar 15 20:50:23 <BLUG_fred2>	it seems.. they won't
Mar 15 20:50:29 <pockeylam>	abharath, but i have to check the log
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Mar 15 20:50:43 <abharath>	pockeylam: oh ok
Mar 15 20:50:48 <BLUG_fred2>	so we have enough time now 
Mar 15 20:50:53 <BLUG_fred2>	at least at the moment
Mar 15 20:50:58 <pockeylam>	abharath, at the end, we didn't ask speakers of their preferred duration
Mar 15 20:51:08 <BLUG_fred2>	s/trhough/thought
Mar 15 20:51:25 <pockeylam>	abharath, i will work on the schedule this week
Mar 15 20:51:31 <pockeylam>	and update you guys next meeting
Mar 15 20:51:41 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure because Chandni wanted a 30 min slot only. So I would prefer going with whatever the speakers are comfortable with
Mar 15 20:51:55 *	lakhil goes for dinner
Mar 15 20:52:10 *	wers is still trying to build GNOME Shell
Mar 15 20:52:18 <BLUG_fred2>	so in AI we still have to contact local communities for : advertise our event, invite them to man a booth
Mar 15 20:52:18 <sakana__>	wers: sorry for missing text, Does everyone use USB flash disk in India?
Mar 15 20:52:26 <lakhil>	wers, install from Ubuntu ppa
Mar 15 20:52:40 <wers>	lakhil, that's too damn old. which one?
Mar 15 20:52:51 <lakhil>	wers, i don't use Ubuntu so don't know
Mar 15 20:52:53 <pockeylam>	abharath, i would go for 45 mins for everybody
Mar 15 20:52:57 <BLUG_fred2>	wers: install Fedora 15
Mar 15 20:53:04 <wers>	BLUG_Fred, LOL
Mar 15 20:53:09 <pockeylam>	abharath, easier to manage...
Mar 15 20:53:09 <lakhil>	wers, i have seen bugs in bugzilla.gnome.org from Ubuntu users
Mar 15 20:53:10 <sakana__>	^^
Mar 15 20:53:10 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure :)
Mar 15 20:53:17 <pockeylam>	abharath, it's a pain to talk to each speaker again...
Mar 15 20:53:24 <pockeylam>	abharath, they are very slow to reply...
Mar 15 20:53:30 <abharath>	pockeylam: :D
Mar 15 20:53:34 <wers>	lakhil, yeah. they prolly built or are using the 37 week old version
Mar 15 20:53:37 <BLUG_fred2>	and to manage the schedule based on each preference
Mar 15 20:53:38 <pockeylam>	abharath, i better send an email to inform them of the time change :)
Mar 15 20:53:59 <pockeylam>	abharath, uptil now i still haven't received all the photos
Mar 15 20:54:12 <pockeylam>	abharath, and andreas still hasn't given me his topic, even though i sent him a few email ;)
Mar 15 20:54:14 <pockeylam>	abharath, so...
Mar 15 20:54:25 <abharath>	pockeylam: ok
Mar 15 20:54:26 <pockeylam>	ok, so guys, that's the end of our meeting, we can still stay and chat though :)
Mar 15 20:54:28 <BLUG_fred2>	and ryan didn't submit his talk
Mar 15 20:54:28 <abharath>	:)
Mar 15 20:54:29 <sakana__>	wers:  I want to use isohybird and cat to create  GNOME 3.0 USB flash with GNOME booth
Mar 15 20:55:10 <abharath>	pockeylam: I sent you the logo that they sent me. Check them and let me know if they are ok
Mar 15 20:55:27 <wers>	sakana, what distro?
Mar 15 20:55:32 <abharath>	I'll shoot a mail with the updated A3 posters and get them all printed tomorrow morning
Mar 15 20:55:53 <sakana__>	any distgro with syslinux package
Mar 15 20:56:00 <pockeylam>	abharath, got your logo
Mar 15 20:56:05 <pockeylam>	abharath, doing it now
Mar 15 20:56:05 <pockeylam>	abharath, by the way, did i tell you that you are good?
Mar 15 20:56:14 <pockeylam>	abharath, haha you got novell to be our bronze sponsor plus plus
Mar 15 20:56:30 <abharath>	pockeylam: well I wish I could clone myself :D
Mar 15 20:56:49 <pockeylam>	lol
Mar 15 20:56:51 *	lakhil finds one abharath is more than enough :P
Mar 15 20:56:54 <abharath>	atleast BLUG_fred2 would be happy to have more people dancing around him ;)
Mar 15 20:57:05 <sakana__>	abharath: haha
Mar 15 20:57:09 <BLUG_fred2>	yes
Mar 15 20:57:36 <pockeylam>	haha
Mar 15 20:57:41 <BLUG_fred2>	ah.. xchat notification is suddenly working again...
Mar 15 20:58:07 <pockeylam>	abharath, can we add novell logo as bronze sponsor, and the gecko logo in custom level?
Mar 15 20:58:16 <pockeylam>	abharath, what do u think? 
Mar 15 20:58:47 <abharath>	pockeylam: That should be ok yes
Mar 15 20:58:52 <pockeylam>	abharath, great :)
Mar 15 20:58:55 <pockeylam>	abharath, doing it now
Mar 15 20:59:14 <pockeylam>	abharath, so i will put both logos in our poster
Mar 15 20:59:45 <abharath>	pockeylam: sure
Mar 15 21:00:01 <pockeylam>	abharath, so many logos, novell black is ok?
Mar 15 21:00:17 <pockeylam>	abharath, u have novell black and red, which one u prefer to put ?
Mar 15 21:00:48 <abharath>	pockeylam: Novell in red. But let me send you some more logos with both logos together. If you prefer them, that's ok too
Mar 15 21:01:03 <pockeylam>	abharath, i want them separate
Mar 15 21:01:11 <abharath>	pockeylam: ok sure
Mar 15 21:01:30 <pockeylam>	abharath, ok, novell in red then 
Mar 15 21:01:32 <lakhil>	Novell should be redhot :D
Mar 15 21:02:02 <pockeylam>	lakhil, haha, ok ok
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