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Dear All,

Coordinating either Gnome Asia or ICOS is a major endeavor in itself.
There are many benefits to keep these two as separate events. For example,
each event can apply for sponsorship from the same government office.
It will also be much easier and cleaner for each organizing team to be
held responsible and accountable for its own efforts in securing
sponsorships and its own decisions such as allocation of resources.

Of course it benefits both events if they happen at nearby time and space.
We can exchange speakers and/or collaborate on events such as software
freedom day through a transparent and well defined interface.
But that does not necessarily mean that it's a good idea to mix up
these two events into one.

In fact I personally believe that it's a bad idea to do so. I have
repeatedly expressed my point both privately and to a small group of people.
Yet Andrew, optimism and persistence and confidence being three of his
major charismas, seems to be able to give positive interpretations to
any negative answers. Please allow me to be blunt lest Andrew misunderstands
and misinterprets yet again: I personally refuse be responsible for the
two-in-one event. The best help I can ask for from Andrew is please
stop forcing these two events into one.

That said, I wish to express my welcome to the Gnome Asia team and other
international communities on behalf of the ICOS team. If Andrew and/or
anyone else is willing to take major responsibility for coordinating
Gnome Asia in Taiwan (whether it's 2010 as Andrew insists, or 2011 as I
suggest for longer preparation time) and recruiting a committee, then
several of us will be eager to help and/or to offer each of our own services
in clearly and precisely defined tasks. As the ICOS coordinator, for example,
I will be glad to support Gnome Asia team's priority over ICOS in choosing
the type of sponsorship to apply for from the Kaohsiung City Government
(so as to differentiate these two events and maximize the probability of
both being approved) since Gnome Asia is truly a much more international
event than ICOS is. Other possible contributions from Taiwanese FS community
include the DRBL and Clonezilla projects, the efforts and experiences
in science education using FS from many school teachers, the experience
of fighting againt the MS empire using Tux USB Keys, ... And of course
I suppose the LXDE development team of which Andrew is a member will most
certainly be involved as one of the major international projects
located at Taiwan.

So Emily and everyone else, please do forward this reply especially if
you have already forwarded the previous one to your mailing lists.
(My guess is that I have no access to asia-summit-list gnome org)
At some point we will translate some important pages about ICOS 2010
into English and put them up here: http://www.slat.org/icos.wiki/
Anyone with visible coding/documenting/advocacy/... contributions in FS
is welcome to present herself/himself as a possible speaker in the wiki
for us ICOS 2010 team to discuss official invitations.
(The planning page is already there. You can put yourself there right away.
http://www.slat.org/icos.wiki/index.php/ICOS_2010_foreign_speakers )
Whether it's ICOS or Gnome Asia or simply vacation that you come to Taiwan for,
we welcome and hope to meet international FS friends in Taiwan around
Sep 18, the software freedom day! (Or any other time, without ICOS)

Best Regards,

-- 
	  「Windows 盜版警察」 進駐你家了, 快醒醒吧! 請搜尋。
		    http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/
			 Chao-Kuei Hung 洪朝貴

ps. I am CK, coordinator of this year's ICOS. My participation in the FS
    community includes coding algotutor and mk-boot-usb, and documenting
    drgeo. But I advocate far more than I code:
    http://blog.ofset.org/ckhung/index.php?tag/English
    (but many more are in Chinese at the same blog and at links from there)
    I am most interested in spreading FS into non-technical fields, such
    as using "tux usb keys" (please google) to help people see what GNU/Linux
    can do. Please share your similar ideas/experiences/interests with me.



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