Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

From: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
To: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL <jpmengual hypra fr>
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:12:55 +0200

Hey all.

I'm not working this week. Just happened to check email for a different
reason and found this giant thread. (Things always happen when I am not
available....) Anyhoo, I personally prefer an old-fashioned mailing
list. Given that the Debian community has an active accessibility
community, of which many folks here are members/participants, any chance
we could create orca-list on the Debian infrastructure? (Samuel?)

--joanie

On 2022-10-20 14:04, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL via orca-list wrote:

Le 20/10/2022 à 16:00, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit :

I forgot to add: in any case any media we propose should be accepted by Joanie
and other developers and skilled testers, else it will be pointless.


I fully agree. Joanie reply is what I wait now.

In any case, if we want al alternative mailing because Discourse does
not provide any solution to be handeld via mail only, I think the
google group is the worst solution. I would suggest instead group.io,
framalist, freelist, but certainly not Google ones. Getting involved
without google account might be a problem, today or in the future.

Regards


Cheers,
Didier

Le 20/10/2022 à 13:57, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit :

Hello,

sorry but I will not join, because I do not want to use Google groups

Cheers,
Didier

Le 20/10/2022 à 11:50, Nimer Jaber via orca-list a écrit :

Hello,

Given the number of messages and interest in such a short time, I've set up the
orca-list Google group.

To subscribe, send a blank email to orca-list+subscribe googlegroups com
<mailto:orca-list%2Bsubscribe googlegroups com> or
visit https://groups.google.com/g/orca-list <https://groups.google.com/g/orca-list>

If it turns out that there is no reason for this group to exist, it can always
be closed.

Thanks.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:33 AM Jace Kattalakkis via orca-list
<orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>> wrote:

     To be fair, I've seen on comments elsewhere that just because Python2 is
     deprecated, doesn't mean people will abandon it.


     I can cite numerous examples, and at least or me, I find Orca's keys
     clash with Discourse's, plus I much prefer the convenience of an email
     list to quickly check, vs having to log into a forum.

     Has Discourse improved its email list options, since the last I heard,
     you got every email in a big orum, then a digest, plus topics you
     started. Has this changed at all?


     On 10/20/22 12:25, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
     > Hello,
     >
     > As I doubt I will spend much time on Discourse or any other web forum, and
     > as I am losing the convenience of email for the intent behind this list,
     > I'd like to see if others feel the same way, and whether there is any
     > interest in creating a list on another provider such as Google groups. It
     > saddens me that the needs and desires of our community weren't considered,
     > and feedback wasn't sought before a decision like this was forced on us,
     > but we as a community could band around another list, if people are
     > interested and think it would see some use. Otherwise, if people are
     > content with the new Discourse, then please disregard this message.
     >
     > Thanks.
     >
     > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:13 AM Andrea Veri <av gnome org
     <mailto:av gnome org>> wrote:
     >
     >> Hi,
     >>
     >> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
     >> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
     >> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
     >> 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
     >> instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
     >> initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
     >> out to me directly.
     >>
     >> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
     >> follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse.
     >> The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
     >> Account and other major OpenID providers.
     >>
     >> After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
     >> alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind
     >> an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
     >> Discourse instead.
     >>
     >> Thanks,
     >>
     >> P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
     >> deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
     >> how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase
     >>
     >> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org <https://discourse.gnome.org>
     >> [2]
     >>
     https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html 
<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html>
     >> [3]
     >>
     https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5 
<https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5>
     >>
     >> --
     >> Cheers,
     >> Andrea
     >>
     >> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
     >> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
     >> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
     >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
     >>
     >> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it <https://www.dragonsreach.it>
     >> _______________________________________________
     >> orca-list mailing list
     >> orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
     >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
     <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
     >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
     <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
     >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
     >> GNOME Universal Access guide:
     >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
     >>
     >
     >
     > _______________________________________________
     > orca-list mailing list
     > orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>
     > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
     <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
     > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
     <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
     > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
     > GNOME Universal Access guide:
     https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>
     _______________________________________________
     orca-list mailing list
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     https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
     <https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list>
     Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
     <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca>
     Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/>
     GNOME Universal Access guide:
     https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
     <https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html>



-- Best,

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_______________________________________________
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orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html

_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html

_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
GNOME Universal Access guide:
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html

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