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Re: [orca-list] trouble with orca on opensuse 11.1



On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:10:56AM -0500, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> I've run into an interesting issue with orca on Opensuse 11.1. If I load up 
> an application that is based on a toolkit that requires scripts (e.g. 
> Openoffice, Firefox, etc) Orca stops speaking for that application. Nothing 
> reads at all, no menu bar, no main window, no flat review. The only thing 
> orca will tell me is the window title, so I know the application itself has 
> loaded. Other applications such as pidgin which is scripted but doesn't use 
> a different toolkit are fine. I can access the app-specific preferences 
> with orca+ctrl+space, which leads me to believe the scripts are loading. 
> Also, when quitting or closing one of these problem applications, orca 
> seems to have a 50/50 chance of freezing up.
> I've tried both with the 2.24 version of orca that comes with opensuse and 
> using the 2.25.4 version in factory with the same results. Anyone know 
> what's going on here? Is this an orca problem or is something else going on 
> with my opensuse installation?
>
>

Hi Jacob,

Your problem is due to the fast that openSUSE 11.1 included some
GNOME-related changes that created accessibility problems.  You
will be interested in this thread:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2008-December/msg00319.html

Specifically this:

"there was a change in Gtk+ and gnome-settings-daemon that
affected the accessibility of non-Gtk+ apps that use Gtk+.  So that
includes at least Open Office, Firefox, and Mono Windows Forms"

I did say "hopefully be a matter of a few days at most," but I
underestimated the time it takes to get updates through to the
proper channels and out to users :(  Even with the patches that my
team has been working on, applications (like Open Office and
FireFox), will need to implement some changes on their end.  I
believe FireFox has already done this in their latest code.  But
again, how long this will all take to get to the end user, I don't
know.

Unfortunately, I would recommend to anyone needing accessibility
tools to use openSUSE 11.0 for now, and to not upgrade to a distro
that uses GNOME 2.24 until verifying that there is a fix for your
distro.

Thanks,
Brian

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