Re: [orca-list] punctuation pronunciation and pauses

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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I'm a recent commer to this whole situation with Orca and was lead to
believe by others that Speech Dispatcher was supposedly the way of the
future and gnome-speech was not going forward.  Maybe I mis-understood
or something.  But one thing I did hear was that gnome-speech was
OSS.  What if we want to use ALSA and want to take advantage of ALSA's
multi chanel support? I thought OSS was obsolete now since the 2.6
kernel uses ALSA by default now.  I'm considering getting gnome-speech
going to see if it works better with Cepstral but if it is restricted
to OSS and single chanel operation, then I'm not interested.

If gnome-speech is the official line and speech dispatcher is *NOT*
"supported", then why doesn't gnome-speech get up to the more current
ALSA implementation?  What synths does gnome-speech work with? I'm
using espeak currently.

On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:10:57PM +0200, Peter VÃgner wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Willie Walker  wrote:
> > I believe this took place in
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520494#c33. If there's
> > something wrong, please let me know.
> yes thanks this is great at least It does things as suggested in that 
> bug report.
> Thanks again for the efforts.
>
> > By the way, I need to repeat that THE CURRENT SPEECH DISPATCHER
> > IMPLEMENTATION IN ORCA IS NOT SUPPORTED. If you have problems with
> > speech output, please first use the currently supported solution,
> > gnome-speech.
> Does it mean we should understand speech-dispatcher backend as 3rd party 
> solution which is not going to be supported by the core team in the near 
> future?
> I know this has already been discussed but I am getting confused now so 
> I'd like to ensure.
>
> > In any case...
> >
> > I've explained that the design choice made early on in Orca was to solve
> > the 'missing synth feature' problem at the Orca level. I've also
> > admitted this was not the optimal solution and that we should work to
> > better understand this problem from the end user point of view. If I
> > have not said it clearly, let me state it now: I'm open to discussing
> > viable working solutions that offer a clear improvement, which address
> > the user requirements, and which run on all the platforms that Orca runs
> > on.
> Yes this is what everyone wishes. Unfortunatelly it looks as in this 
> discussion It's happening quite frequently someone might missunderstand.
> Attempts to explain speech-dispatcher model has been made several times 
> I believe with a few tips and questions whether gnome-speech and orca 
> are able to adapt some of the key ideas.
> Currently when the bug mentioned abouve is near to fixed. The only known 
> difference from the users perspective is is that with gnome-speech 
> character and punctuation processing is happening in gnome-speech 
> backend and with speech-dispatcher this is not happening.
>
> In my prewious posting I was not tallking about the implementation 
> it-self. Really the offered solutions are not complete as I feel it 
> those are just some concepts or so. The thing I am interested in is how 
> much you and others can agree with that and where does it fail according 
> to your experience etc.
> I believe it would be nice to go into more details if possible.
>
> The thing is final decision must be done within the Orca team I think. 
> So it's why I am so curious.
>
> oh finally let me thank also for this discussion. I feel such a skilled 
> accessibility developer than you are is not going to waste the time 
> talking with someone like I am. This really shows you are ready for 
> cooperation if you feel it may lead to an improvement.
>
> It is very likelly possible that it's me who don't understand the 
> situation good enough so if you feel I should not continue in this thing 
> I'll respect that as well.
>
> thanks
>
> Peter
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