Re: [orca-list] Status of A11Y from IBM.

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi:

>From the standpoint of accessibility, the graphical desktop you get with
OpenSolaris is the same as that you get with Ubuntu and other Linux
distributions: it's GNOME.  As such, AT-SPI-based assistive technologies
that work on Ubuntu should work fine on Solaris.  As a matter of fact,
Sun has a team that regularly does accessibility testing on Solaris.

Hope this helps,

Will

On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 20:25 +0530, SatyaNarayana Murthy Tanikella wrote:
> Friends,
> Any body on list tried Open solaris developer addition?
> If tried how it is?
> 
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> >    1.  SVN For Firefox Three? (Richard Wells)
> >    2. Re:  speech-dispatcher 0.6.2 (Guy Schlosser)
> >    3. Re:  speech-dispatcher 0.6.2 (buchal brailcom org)
> >    4.  Linux and Orca Newbie. (Amy Mason)
> >    5. Re:  speech-dispatcher 0.6.2 (Hermann)
> >    6. Re:  Linux and Orca Newbie. (Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis)
> >    7. Re:  [Fwd: Status of IBM a11y] (Hermann)
> >    8. Re:  Linux and Orca Newbie. (Hermann)
> >    9.  using several languages/voices with Orca and SD (Hermann)
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:54:04 -0400
> > From: Richard Wells <richwels bupster cjb net>
> > Subject: [orca-list] SVN For Firefox Three?
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <20070602235404 9417 52648 biff serotek com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is it possible to get Firefox three checked out through svn? If so, how?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:35:16 -0400
> > From: Guy Schlosser <guyster bex net>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher 0.6.2
> > To: Jan Buchal <buchal brailcom org>
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <20070602183517 DF297FDA pop16 mta everyone net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >
> > Hey there Jan, and thanks for the reply.  If it doesn't exist, do I
> > create it?  Do I have to recreate that directory every time I reboot,
> > since it's dynamicly mounted?  As always, thanks much for the help.
> >
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >
> > At 08:35 AM 6/2/2007, you wrote:
> > > >>>>> "GS" == Guy Schlosser <guyster bex net> writes:
> > >
> > >     GS> Hey there fellow listers, I have a question regarding
> > >     GS> speech-dispatcher 0.6.2. I compiled it from source using the
> > >     GS> tarball at freebsoft.org. When I execute speech-dispatcher after
> > >     GS> successful compile, I get a message that says unable to create
> > >     GS> pid in /var/run. I've even tried this as root and have the same
> > >     GS> message displayed. Is there something I'm missing? As always,
> > >     GS> thanks in advance for all the help. If this has been answered
> > >     GS> before, I'm sorry for duplicating the question.
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >check if the /var/run/speech-dispatcher directory exists. How I hear on
> > >Ubuntu is /var/run dynamically mounted every boot.
> > >
> > >
> > >Best
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Jan Buchal
> > >Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008
> > >Mob: (00420) 608023021
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:09:08 +0200
> > From: buchal brailcom org
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher 0.6.2
> > To: Guy Schlosser <guyster bex net>
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <86lkf1efi3 fsf ferda buchal xx>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
> >
> > >>>>> "GS" == Guy Schlosser <guyster bex net> writes:
> >
> >     GS> Hey there Jan, and thanks for the reply. If it doesn't exist, do
> >     GS> I create it? Do I have to recreate that directory every time I
> >     GS> reboot, since it's dynamicly mounted?
> > Probably yes, but I don't know the mechanism in Ubuntu. You must be
> > careful if you will create the directory don't forgot set right
> > permissions.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > --
> >
> > Jan Buchal -- ?editel spole?nosti
> > Tel: (00420) 24 24 86 008
> > Mob: (00420) 608023021
> > http://www.brailcom.org
> > http://www.nepodpis.cz
> > http://internet.proslepe.cz
> > http://www.freebsoft.org
> > http://wahelper.brailcom.org
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 01:29:27 -0500
> > From: "Amy Mason" <amason80 gmail com>
> > Subject: [orca-list] Linux and Orca Newbie.
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID:
> > 	<67db97260706022329i30bc7135u17b3bbcb51071663 mail gmail com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > Hello, my name is Amy Mason, and I am a legally blind computer user.  I
> > joined this list because I really want to see Orca succeed, but to be
> > honest, I haven't had much luck in getting it running on my own system.  It
> > is probably because I am very new to Linux as well as Orca, and am unsure as
> > to how to begin.  To give you a little background, I am running Ubuntu
> > 7.04pretty much as is.  I want to use Orca's speech package, as
> > software
> > magnification is not an option for me.  I was told in the ubuntu help forums
> > how to update orca to the latest build, and followed the instructions to the
> > letter.   The updates appear to be successful, and I can run orca, but I
> > have several issues I am unsure how to resolve.
> >
> > 1.  I have read that to use the internet with orca, I need to install
> > firefox 3.0.  The only 3.0 I have seen is the alpha development version. Is
> > this what I should be running, and if so, how do I  install it?
> >
> > 2.  Is there a way to make orca stop reading after I have gotten the
> > information I want or need?  For example, In lists, or when I type in open
> > office, it keeps rereading the sentence thus far, plus the new information
> > each time I type.  in a manner where I would hear- s so som some somet all
> > the way through until my sentence is complete.  I am hopeful that there is a
> > way to stop orca from doing this as it cannot keep up with my typing or
> > navigation and I am left with it talking the entire time but not telling me
> > what I am doing on the screen.
> >
> > If I could get far enough along to handle these issues, I believe that I
> > could start to use orca and Ubuntu for some of my daily tasks.  As it is, I
> > dual boot into windows, and it is sadly getting most of my attention.
> >
> > I apologize if my questions sound inane, but this is my first linux
> > experience, and I really would like to learn.
> >
> > Also, in a slightly unrelated topic, what other programs should I look into
> > getting to make my ubuntu more useful.   Are there other accessibility
> > programs I should look at using in tandem with orca?  I would appreciate any
> > help you can give me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Amy Mason
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:37:04 +0200
> > From: Hermann <steppenwolf2 onlinehome de>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] speech-dispatcher 0.6.2
> > To: buchal brailcom org
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <46627DB0 1030305 onlinehome de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi,
> > I work with Ubuntu 7.04, the latest Orca and SD as speech system, and I
> > never had to create /var/run/speech-dispatcher directory manually.
> > I remember however, that Krishnakant reports the same problem as he
> > tried to set up SD for Orca.
> > So I think that this issue should be investigated further.
> > Hermann
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:23:14 +0100
> > From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis googlemail com>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Linux and Orca Newbie.
> > To: Amy Mason <amason80 gmail com>
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <4662B2B2 8050701 googlemail com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi Amy.
> >
> > Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux. I suggest you make the Orca
> > wiki your first port of call before raising issues here:
> >
> > http://live.gnome.org/Orca
> >
> > The wiki includes instructions on how to install the latest version of
> > Firefox:
> >
> > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/Firefox
> >
> > and a list of other programs known to work with Orca:
> >
> > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/AccessibleApps
> >
> > I can't replicate your problem with Orca reading the entire sentence
> > every time you type a word in OpenOffice.org, nor do I know what you
> > meant by "lists". You might try getting the latest development version,
> > building from source, and seeing if that fixes your issue:
> >
> > http://urlx.org/live.gnome.org/fe7d8
> >
> > --
> > Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
> >
> > Amy Mason wrote:
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > Hello, my name is Amy Mason, and I am a legally blind computer user.  I
> > > joined this list because I really want to see Orca succeed, but to be
> > > honest, I haven't had much luck in getting it running on my own system.
> > It
> > > is probably because I am very new to Linux as well as Orca, and am
> > > unsure as
> > > to how to begin.  To give you a little background, I am running Ubuntu
> > > 7.04pretty much as is.  I want to use Orca's speech package, as
> > > software
> > > magnification is not an option for me.  I was told in the ubuntu help
> > > forums
> > > how to update orca to the latest build, and followed the instructions to
> > > the
> > > letter.   The updates appear to be successful, and I can run orca, but I
> > > have several issues I am unsure how to resolve.
> > >
> > > 1.  I have read that to use the internet with orca, I need to install
> > > firefox 3.0.  The only 3.0 I have seen is the alpha development version.
> > Is
> > > this what I should be running, and if so, how do I  install it?
> > >
> > > 2.  Is there a way to make orca stop reading after I have gotten the
> > > information I want or need?  For example, In lists, or when I type in open
> > > office, it keeps rereading the sentence thus far, plus the new information
> > > each time I type.  in a manner where I would hear- s so som some somet all
> > > the way through until my sentence is complete.  I am hopeful that there
> > > is a
> > > way to stop orca from doing this as it cannot keep up with my typing or
> > > navigation and I am left with it talking the entire time but not telling
> > me
> > > what I am doing on the screen.
> > >
> > > If I could get far enough along to handle these issues, I believe that I
> > > could start to use orca and Ubuntu for some of my daily tasks.  As it is,
> > I
> > > dual boot into windows, and it is sadly getting most of my attention.
> > >
> > > I apologize if my questions sound inane, but this is my first linux
> > > experience, and I really would like to learn.
> > >
> > > Also, in a slightly unrelated topic, what other programs should I look
> > into
> > > getting to make my ubuntu more useful.   Are there other accessibility
> > > programs I should look at using in tandem with orca?  I would appreciate
> > > any
> > > help you can give me.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Amy Mason
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 14:28:43 +0200
> > From: Hermann <steppenwolf2 onlinehome de>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] [Fwd: Status of IBM a11y]
> > To: Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>
> > Cc: Orca Users <orca-list gnome org>
> > Message-ID: <20070603122843 GA13380 ubuntu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Does anyone know the reason why IBM cancelled LSR and retires from Linux'
> > a11y development?
> > And: What happens to Orca, if Sun Microsystems one day decides to issue a
> > similar statement as IBM did?
> > Hermann
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 14:32:26 +0200
> > From: Hermann <steppenwolf2 onlinehome de>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Linux and Orca Newbie.
> > To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis googlemail com>
> > Cc: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <20070603123225 GA15993 ubuntu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi,
> > I guess what might happen in OO:
> > Amy, did you eventually activate numlock? Press the numlock key and see if
> > anything changes.
> > Hermann
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 16:19:20 +0200
> > From: Hermann <steppenwolf2 onlinehome de>
> > Subject: [orca-list] using several languages/voices with Orca and SD
> > To: orca-list gnome org
> > Message-ID: <20070603141919 GA30870 ubuntu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hi
> > I set up Speech-dispatcher with Espeak in German as default and Flite as
> > second language in English.
> > When typing:
> > spd-say "german text"
> > and
> > spd-say -l en "english text"
> > it uses the proper module for the demanded languages.
> > But I cannot change languages in Orca's speech settings. Why do the SD
> > settings not affect Orca? Maybe I've forgotten something?
> > Hermann
> >
> >
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