Re: Display bigger version of a photo on a tooltip

["Michael Wayne Goodman" <goodman m w gmail com>]

I just skimmed over the last few messages, so forgive me if I'm
repeating something.  Just thought I'd put in my two cents.

I also had no idea the 'v' key did what it does until I stumbled upon
it by accident.  It would be nice if that was somehow made more
apparent.

However I would not want something like that appearing when I hover
with the mouse.  I think it would be distracting, if not in-the-way.
I would probably be ok with a small tooltip, like one line of text, if
it provided some useful information, but no more than that.

Also, if people are so torn on whether it's a good idea or not, then
it doesn't belong in the main F-Spot code as a standard feature, but
as a plugin.  Then those who want it can install it, without bothering
those who don't.


On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:36 PM, David Prieto <frandavid100 gmail com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
>  I've been out all evening and thus missed several of your messages, so
>  let me reply to several comments:
>
>
>  > > That way users like me get what they want -they have a lot of small
>  > > thumbnails but can see a detailed picture easily- and users like you get
>  > > what they want too -they have a few big thumbnails and are not bothered
>  > > by tooltips that are probably the same size as the thumbnails are-.
>  >
>  > I would amend your suggestion and say that above a certain size that the
>  > thumbnail should be modifier enabled (as it is at present).
>
>  I'm not sure I follow you. What do you mean by "modifier enabled"? Could
>  you elaborate?
>
>  > Whenever you don't want to look at an enlarged thumbnail.  Does it
>
> > matter what the reason it?  There are workflows, mine for example,
>  > where
>  > the enlarged thumbnail is counterproductive.
>
>  Yeah, with small thumbnails it's easy enough to move out of the picture
>  if you want the tooltip to go away, but with huge thumbnails I can
>  picture it being bothersome. I hadn't thought of that case until you
>  mentioned it.
>
>  > But what about the case when you press the control key just before
>
> > pressing the I key (show metadata).  Or for that matter Ctrl-F to
>  > toggle
>  > the displaying of the "Find Bar".  There must be loads of short cuts
>  > that use Ctrl where removing the enlarged thumbnail would be a wrong.
>
>  I don't see anything wrong with removing the tooltips at those times.
>  Actually, I don't see anything wrong with displaying them either. How
>  would that slow your workflow?
>
>
>  > Of course David's auto zoom on mouse over would completely disable
>
> > the
>  > drag and drop functionality.  For this reason (and this reason alone)
>  > I
>  > can see the development team never implementing David's suggestion
>  > because that functionality is useful at all thumbnail sizes.
>
>  Nope, it would not disable DnD at all. Take a look at Pidgin: tooltips
>  appear slightly above or below the cursor, never on top of it. The
>  cursor is still on the item, so you can drag it just like there were no
>  tooltip.
>
>  Go on, give it a try on Pidgin. See how tooltips don't keep you from
>  dragging.
>
>  I would love to propose a sane default to implement this, and open it to
>  discussion. But first I'd like to make sure that we all agree if
>  tooltips hinder dragging or not. So please give it a try.
>
>  David.
>
>
>
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