Re: [orca-list] Best email solution?



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                              From: 
Georgina Joyce
<gena mga demon co uk>
                                To: 
Nolan Darilek
<nolan thewordnerd info>
                           Subject: 
Re: [orca-list] Best email solution?
                              Date: 
Fri, 30 May 2008 12:31:45 +0100


Hi

I understand what you say about evolution having lots of areas to
navigate.  Have you tried turning some of them off from the view menu?
For example I just have the side bar checked in the layout group.  What
seems to be necessary is to shift tab and the traversal of your folder
structure is quick and very efficient.  If I'm on the inbox item and I
want to enter the inbox I simply shift tab and I'm on the last message I
had the focus previously.  To jump to my orca list email which is some
20 items down.  I press tab to put the focus back upon the inbox item
then type "or" then tab, then shift tab to put the focus upon the last
message reviewed or on the first message if the folder was empty.

I'm not sure what I prefer in respect of using the method of reading
messages.  As you describe down arrowing and right arrowing twice to get
into the content is a bit annoying.  But the advantage is that when orca
craps out and you restart it.  The focus is still in the same place.  I
think that I probably use the other method by having the carrot turn off
and just using the 9 and 7 keys.  The problem is that when orca craps
out, the focus is at the top of the message.  So I guess I'd also have a
problem with Long messages with this method but haven't yet.  

I've already posted twice this month on how to save attachments within
evolution so look at this months archives and ask about anything you
don't understand.  Using the 9, 6 and the slash keys of the numeric
keypad works every time for me.

 
HTH

Gena
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:39 -0500, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Hello, all.

What are those of you using Orca regularly finding to be the best email 
solution? Here's what I've tried and experienced:

Evolution:Not a big fan of this interface as it seems rather cluttered. 
The way to read email messages seems to involve pressing enter on each 
one, then tabbing/arrowing X times until I've reached the message 
content area. Is there a more efficient way to do this? There are also 
lots of buttons to tab past, and tabbing through the display seems to be 
an essential aspect of reading my mail.

Thunderbird 3.0A: I recognize this is an alpha, and also note that it 
seems more accessible. I'm noticing, though, that it's **incredibly** 
eager to delete my messages. (I.e. I press enter on a message, read it 
then ctrl-w to close the window, the message is gone.) Fortunately 
deleted messages go into my trash, so they aren't truly gone, but I'm 
fishing for mail in the trash multiple times per day, and there seems to 
be an ever-increasing list of actions that cause my mail to go away. For 
instance, last night I tried clicking on an attachment with mouse keys 
to see if I could view it, and whoosh, instant deletion. :) I recognize 
that this is alpha software, so I can't be too upset about this, but I 
asked on #thunderbird today and didn't receive a huge outpouring of 
"Yeah, that's a known issue which we're all dealing with." This makes me 
wonder if it's an issue with keyboard commands, or some oddness with 
Orca's interaction that's wiping out my mail. What exactly that could 
possibly be, I don't know, but alpha or not, it strikes me as odd that 
so many would use a trigger-happy email client. :) Has anyone else 
encountered this? This is with the nightly build, and every day I'm 
prompted to install a software update, so I assume that it's downloading 
each new nightly build.

Also, I've not figured out any means of accessing attachments in either 
Evolution or Thunderbird. I've looked for menu options or buttons. I've 
tried using flat review and mouse keys to click on the text of the 
attachment filename. Is there something I'm missing?

And is there another email client I might try that works better? I'm 
mostly happy with Thunderbird, but this whole trigger-happiness is 
really bugging/scaring me, making me want to switch to another client 
until someone can confirm or resolve it. I'm also happy to file whatever 
bugs may be necessary, I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced 
it, and the nature of the issue has me unwilling to play with it much in 
order to find an exact list of what behaviors cause it. :)

Thanks a bunch.

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