Hi, as it's getting more common to do client side window decorations and this part is not standardized at all [1], I want to suggest that we add a distinct state for this (_NET_WM_STATE_UNDECORATED). Please see attached patch to the spec. And please propose any improvements to the wording. If we get this in, I suggest to update the toolkits to use this in addition to the Motif hint. I will take care of changing Qt of course (which btw. already uses a KWin-specific hint). With other toolkits I'm not familiar enough to try to change them :-) Looking forward to your comments. Best Regards Martin Gräßlin [1] Just last week we got one bug report about Motif handling being broken in KWin, and one "bug report" about a toolkit abusing _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_SPLASH for undecorated windows.
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