Re: Proposal: _NET_WM_STATE_MINIMIZED

[Sasha Vasko <sasha aftercode net>]

Lubos Lunak wrote:
> Dne pá 25. června 2004 20:26 Havoc Pennington napsal(a):
>
> > On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 14:13, Elijah P Newren wrote:
> >
> > > Unless I'm missing something or just not understanding, this solution
> > > makes it impossible to have a window which is both minimized
> > > and shaded--or else makes it impossible for tasklists and pagers to tell
> > > if the window has both states set.
> >
> > Shaded window = SHADED
> > Shaded/minimized window = HIDDEN, SHADED
> > Minimized window = HIDDEN
> > Unminimized, unshaded window = (blank)
> >
> > 2 boolean states = 2x2 = 4 combinations, each combination looks
> > different, right?
>
>
>  But shaded window == SHADED !HIDDEN breaks the purpose of HIDDEN - shaded 
> windows shouldn't be visible in the pager (and in general, I think a shaded 

This is a matter of opinion. Shaded windows do look rather nice in the 
pager. Blank pager looks rather wierd, when you have bunch of shaded 
windows on the screen.

> window should be considered to be hidden - you can't see the contents after 
> all, just like you don't see them when minimizing to icon or taskbar, 

You do see the titlebar, through which application may convey some 
important information to you by changing its WM_NAME/_NET_WM_NAME. ICCCM 
gives same importance to both window contents and name, which makes 
sense, considering that X may run on some wierd displays, where window 
contents may not be visible some of the time.

> although in all cases you can see something, be it the titlebar, icon or 
> taskbar entry).

As long as either one of : WM_NAME, _NET_WM_NAME or window contents is 
visible on the screen HIDDEN should be turned off (or would be visible 
if its viewport was current).


Sasha