Re: STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION (was Re: _NET: Disabling shading)

[Marko Macek <Marko Macek gmx net>]

Lubos Lunak wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 of October 2003 18:11, Rob Adams wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 03:24, Denis O. Mikhalkin wrote:
> >
> > > The way to notify the user about important background actions requiring
> > > attention has been asked from AWT for some time but we wern't able to
> > > provide the implementation since it is not widely supported. I really
> > > would like to see it a part of the _NET protocol - since, as being said,
> > > ugrency hint is not well supported, I think that the _NET equivalent
> > > will be more respected by implementors.
> >
> > Lubos used a _NET_WM_NEEDS_ATTENTION or something like that hint when
> > implementing the USER_TIME stuff for his reference implementation in
> > KWin.  I had intended to use the same hint for the same purpose when I
> > do the metacity implementation.  I propose that this hint be added to
> > the specification.
>
>
> It's proposed here:
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/2003-May/msg00013.html
>
> As I already said there, I first thought about using the Urgency hint from 
> ICCCM, but I eventually decided not to. I wasn't sure if it would be ok to 
> set this hint from the WM, and moreover the meaning of this state is actually 
> somewhat opposite to being urgent.
>
>  Rob, if you start implementing it in Metacity, I'd first suggest talking to 
> me :). The spec will actually need few more additions (timestamps in messages 
> and identification who sent it, whether an app or a pager), and some of the 
> mechanisms can be somewhat tricky. It's been some time since I wrote that 
> proposal. I'm actually now trying to collect up all these things for 
> proposing the necessary ones here.

I also have plans to implement this in icewm.

There is already support for using UrgencyHint + internal state (for new 
windows, raise request) for this. Exposing this in a standard manner 
would be nice.

Should the WM also set this flag when UrgencyHint is set?

Mark