Re: Open to discussion

[Dominik Vogt <dominik vogt gmx de>]

On Sun, Jun 20, 1999 at 01:34:28PM -0700, Derek Simkowiak wrote:
> > Personally, I believe that in regards to the wharf/dock/slit issue, that
> > the particular WM's in question have found very good ways of dealing with
> > those.
> 
> 	Can you provide some more examples of how the WMs have handled
> this problem?  I haven't seen any solutions.
> 
> > I've been using GnomeICU since I got Mandrake 6.0 up and running,
> > and I'd prefer to have it in a slit/dock/wharf rather than on the panel
> > which I will end up customizing with easily accessible applications. Even
> > in 1280x1204, there is only so much space.
> 
> 	In this example, why is using the WM's wharf a better idea than
> simply creating a second Gnome Panel (i.e., one that resides on the side
> or top of the screen, and that would be dedicated to launching
> applications)?  It seems like using another Gnome Panel would give you a
> better integrated, more consistent desktop.
> 
> 	Please note that I am truly asking questions here, not trying to
> make a point.
> 
> > I agree that there should be _a_ GNOME Window Manager. I don't agree that
> > this should preclude other window managers from being able to benefit from
> > a close interaction with GNOME (or KDE) for that matter.
> 
> 	I really like the idea of having a default, fully-integrated Gnome
> Window Manager, and then also offering hints (or whatever else) so that
> non-Gnome window managers can still interact with Gnome.
> 
> 	But, for the latter, we're still faced with all the issues I
> emailed to the list: how do you handle all the conflicting and duplicated
> behaviour?

By identifying the features that are really a task of the DE and leaving
the others to the WM. I simply can't fathom why for example paging or
icon management should be part of the DE.

> > In the end, I see the interaction between the WM and the UI being the same
> > scenario with GNOME as with KDE. They have their own WM, but other WM's
> > (like BlackBox, for one) will work fine with it.
> 
> 	I have almost no experience with KDE--how does KDE address the
> problems that I described in the last email?  Or do non-KDE window
> managers suffer from the same problems that Gnome currently suffers?

Bye

Dominik ^_^

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Dominik Vogt, dominik.vogt@gmx.de
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