Re: WM Extended Spec Summary, 6/27/99

["Bradley T. Hughes" <bhughes tcac net>]

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Nathan Clemons wrote:

> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:03:37 -0500 (EST)
> From: Nathan Clemons <nathan@windsofstorm.net>
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> Subject: WM Extended Spec Summary, 6/27/99
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> This week seems to have been a slow-down week for the mailing list, with
> not as many flurries of emails back and forth on the project. Several new
> people have shown up (David Rosenthal, Tim Janik) that I don't have
> information on.
> 
> Items to think about:
> 
> * New draft. Who wants to organize the next draft revision? Matthias
> Ettrich did a fine job on the first, and there was a _lot_ of comments
> made on it and changes verbally made on the list to it. It would seem to
> me that we need to make a second sometime soon because of the high volume
> of changes made to it.

i'd like to have a second draft...

> * Undecided issues: will we support the passing of window and workspace
> information to an external application like a pager? (You all know my
> opinion, what I'm looking for is a consensus.) Should WM's be re-written
> to not display icons on the root window if running in a mode compatible
> with this specification, or can some interaction between the root-window
> application and the WM work to display an iconized application? Is session
> management something that should be considered here or are we just going
> to let that rest in the hands of others?

one thing that i would like to see happen with alot of the "hints" in the
current "spec" and matthias' draft is a fair amount of grouping... for
example... window attributes (like shaded,hidden,maximized) etc. are
defined as a CARDINAL (32 bit unsigned integer)... things like decorations,
_NET_WM_SKIP_FOCUS etc. are also parts of a window's attributes, and
perhaps we should follow Xlib in creating a structure/union of these
different pieces and define them under one property on a client window:
_NET_WM_HINTS (just like _XA_WM_HINTS or _MOTIF_WM_HINTS)

> This project is gaining a large amount of attention. My
> gnome.windsofstorm.net site had 8,200 hits overall in the past week,
> compared to 1,040 the week before. I'd like to keep this project moving on
> a good clip, hopefully with a second draft by the 4th, and a third draft
> by the 25th.
> 
> Keep up the good work!
> 
> --Nathan
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