Re: [Vala] The future of Vala

[rastersoft <raster rastersoft com>]

Hi:

I was hoping to see at least one answer to this, but now I'm really
scared. I really love Vala, so the possibility of missing it is really
horrible :(


El 08/09/16 a las 19:34, Timm Bäder escribió:
> Hey,
>
> this is probably just a mail for Jürg and maybe Luca, but if you have a
> relevant opinion on the matter, that might be a fine reply as well.
>
> So, for quite a while the Vala project has seen very little activity.
> The three people most involved (Jürg, Luca and Flo) are barely on IRC
> and/or otherwise reachable which makes it hard to get an opinion or info
> from them. On the other hand, some people are still doing a great job,
> namely Rico with all the binding work, as well as Evan (I haven't kept
> up with what Al is doing other than replying to bugzilla issues that
> won't be fixed unless it's a binding issue).
>
> Lots of people are worried about how the project will stay alive (or
> if), and quite a lot of projects are written in Vala (including one I
> maintain) -- and people keep porting projects from C to Vala, mostly
> hoping for more contributions, hoping the Vala's C#-like syntax scares
> off less people.
>
> Now, we all know that Vala has enough bugs that need to get fixed, as
> well as lots of potential for improvements (I'll just disregard all the
> wishes for special syntax for fringe features on IRC, that's not what
> I'm talking about). Some of them are easy to fix but even if the patches
> are present in bugzilla and their author is willing to fix them after
> a review, the review just never happens. This doesn't just cause those
> bugs to stay unfixed, but those people will also never get accustomed
> to the internals of valac and so they will never work on anything more
> important than this simple fix.
>
> I have tried in the past to do exactly that and post some patches for
> simple fixes to get an understanding of valac internals but it's quite
> frankly huge and there's not a real high-level documentation one could
> work with (apart from a few very old blog posts form Luca) and neither
> working tools do debug it (I've once spent a few hours on fixing valag
> but then gave up...).
>
>
> So... what's the deal here? Is there any way forward one could look
> into? Is it wip/transform? IIRC there was some dbus stuff broken here?
> Are there any TODO items for cleaning up the compiler? Should we just
> tell people to not use Vala in the first place (which would be better
> for the in the long run)? All of these are fine, but the current
> situation not so much.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Timm
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