Re: [Vala] Was GNOME Panel applet example removed?

[Tal Hadad <tal_hd hotmail com>]

> Then we end up having N versions of the Vala tutorial and all code
> examples, for Vala versions 0.14, 0.12, 0.10, 0.8, ..., not just for
> the most recent stable release, multiplied with all the different
> versions for each library.
I'm worried now. Do you mean you'll remove GNOME panel library binding in Vala 0.14?
I know that usually new is better and old sucks and make API ugly, but for me and other
"few" people, GNOME Shell is a different DE than GNOME 2, or at least it's window
manager and integration.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but only Fedora have dropped GNOME2 from their distro.
And yes, I know I can just attach it as external binding.
So if you do decide to drop, please add it at least as external.
> Other desktop environments, like for example Xfce4, still use GKT+ 2, so
> support for GTK+ 2 is important. No other desktop environment, however, uses
> gnome-panel, so if panel applets are deprecated it makes no sense to provide
> examples for them.
Sorry Andrea, I think you didn't understand my point.
My point is that GTK2->GTK3 change the end-user opinion about the product.
I do use too Xfce as my default DE! I know how support is important.
However, GNOME3 has different opinions among users.
So I think that it's wrong to remove examples just because GNOME moved on.

> At least we should have a policy regarding when example code is
> considered old and unmaintained enough to be removed. Or a sub-page
> named "Deprecated stuff" where all deprecated code samples go in, so
> that I wouldn't feel the urge to look after it.
Actually, it sound a very good offer.
It also doesn't make sense to remove old example before the new example showed up.

> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:49:36 +0200
> From: scumm_fredo gmx net
> To: vala-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [Vala] Was GNOME Panel applet example removed?
>
> On 08/30/2011 04:44 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
> > Then say it's ultra-broken, but I don't see _any_ gain in removing
> > already written stuff, docs can be kept in shape this way too. And
> > keeping some more lines it's making the wiki crowded with cruft.
> >
> > Can I please ask you to not remove code next time but just put a big
> > warning, if it's ok for you?
>
> Then we end up having N versions of the Vala tutorial and all code
> examples, for Vala versions 0.14, 0.12, 0.10, 0.8, ..., not just for
> the most recent stable release, multiplied with all the different
> versions for each library. I can't imagine anyone who would like to
> maintain this. It's a wiki. Old versions are saved in the history. And
> old samples can still be found on http://code.valaide.org/.
>
> In my point of view documentation by example is not just unspiritual
> accumulation of code chunks without keeping them in shape. Less can be
> more. At least we should have a policy regarding when example code is
> considered old and unmaintained enough to be removed. Or a sub-page
> named "Deprecated stuff" where all deprecated code samples go in, so
> that I wouldn't feel the urge to look after it.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Frederik
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