Re: [Vala] Which Linux distribution is used for developing vtg (Vala toys for gedit) ?

[Andrea Del Signore <sejerpz tin it>]

Hi Serge,

I'm Andrea the developer of vala toys,

On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 14:27 +0200, Serge Hulne wrote:
> Which Linux distibution is used for developing vtg (Vala toys for gedit) ?

Currently I'm using debian sid

> Personally, I prefer Ubuntu, and more specifically Ubuntu LTS ("long time
> service", since it is supported for a couple of years and is therefore ideal
> for servers).
>
>    - Using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I managed to install the version before-last of
>    vtg, but not the latest.

Yes that's is somehow expected since with the last version I switched to
the gnome 3.0 stack (gtk+ gedit etc...)

>    - On a separate distribution, I installed the latest version of Ubuntu
>    (11.04). In that version, the latest versions of Vala and libgee are
>    available as packages, however only the version-before-last of vtg is
>    available (and the latest won't even install from source, because of unmet
>    dependencies relatively of he version of gtk+-3 required).

Again that's unfortunate, but expected.

> Advantages expected from a more conservative approach:
>
>    1. Would it not be preferable to use a less recent version of of GTK, so
>    that more conservative (also more stable) distributions of Linux can benefit
>    from it as well?

Yes, but that require some more work and I don't have the time to
maintain two branches ATM.

>    2. On what system is vtg developed (Debian "unstable, I guess") ?

As I said yes.

>    3. A more conservative approach relatively to the version of GTK involved
>    would not only benefit more conservative distributions of Linux, but also
>    users making use of Vala / vtg under Linux ports such as:

This release has more problems of the previous because I wanted to
support gnome 3.0 stack, for the next releases I will *try* to be more
conservative about the dependencies.

>    4.
>       - Macports (Linux port for Mac). N.B: Unlike Vala or libgee, vtg won't
>       compile under MacPorts (and is not available as a MacPort
> package either),
>       which is a pity since Vala is available on that system.
>       - Cygwin or Mingw for Windows.

I remember that I compiled vala-toys on a mac in the 0.6 time, but now I
don't have access to any mac anymore so...

>    5. The benefit of such an approach would be to increase the potential
>    user base for Vala (a lot of potential developers will not take a
>    programming language seriously if it does not offer a development GUI
>    comparable to Eclipse or QTDevelop, for fear of wasting time by constantly
>    switching between the doc, the editor and the command-line).

I principle I agree with you, but for this release I was forced to make
a choice since the maintenance of two different versions was out of
question for me.

As you said until now vala-toys was pretty low on library versions and
it will continue this way for the next releases. I hope that this was
and will be the first exception for a long time.


> Serge.

Regards,

Andrea.

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