Re: [Usability] HIG: Fixing the sort arrow direction guideline
- From: Celeste Lyn Paul <celeste kde org>
- To: usability gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Usability] HIG: Fixing the sort arrow direction guideline
- Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:58:10 -0400
For those who want to know more about this proposed change, here is a common
rational for the arrow position in Windows, Mac, and the web:
v users perceive arrow as bigger on top so the list should contain the
"biggest" items first (decreasing, e.g. reverse alpha, 10-1)
^ users perceive arrow as smaller on top so the list should be sorted by the
"smallest" items first (increasing, e.g. alpha, 1-10)
Also, the language "natural" order is very strange, does the GNOME HIG mean
"logical" order? There should never be a table that isn't sorted in some way.
Usually a good default is the first column is increasing by default unless
there is a better column to sort by.
On Saturday 16 May 2009 11:46:20 pm Braden McDaniel wrote:
> GNOME's guideline for the sort direction indicator arrow is opposite the
> prevailing convention on other popular platforms (Windows and Mac) and
> many prominent Web sites (e.g., Yahoo! Mail, Google Docs). Furthermore,
> the current recommendation in the HIG uses some vague language that's
> too open to interpretation (specifically, a poorly defined notion of a
> "natural order").
>
> Fixing this is long overdue; it would be very nice if it could finally
> happen for GNOME 3.0. If the will to do this is present, I'll be glad
> to propose new language for the HIG.
>
> The language in question is here:
>
>
> http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/controls-lists.html.en#contr
>ols-lists-sortable
>
> I filed a bug on this some time ago:
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305277
--
Celeste Lyn Paul
KDE Usability Project
usability.kde.org
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