On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 23:24 +1100, Andy Owen wrote: > This is mostly related, but kind of not related. I think that instead of > (or at least as well as) having a list of all applications with audio > happening, so you can modify their volume, there should be a volume > slider as part of the window decoration. Hello, One use-case i image of the list of all "sound emitting" applications: To check that pidgin and ekiga are louder than rhythmbox to make sure I hear the phone ring. That wouldn't be that easy with one short look as it is with the list so IMHO this can not replace the list view. (mostly related: IMHO a more important issue is that the volume control through the list is not the same as for example Totem's volume control. Having to check two places where one application is silenced sounds like a bad idea to me.) A unified sound management would be nice but *I* would not search sound control in the title bar as it - from my point of view - reflects the "window management" (meaning the visual appearance (size..) of the window, something "meta" to the actual application). I would expect controlling actual "content" of an application is done within the window and right now i count sound to this "content". Also one simple aspect of having the volume control icon in the title bar that makes it less discoverable is that the icon smaller in most cases - as it is in the mockup. Of course, once used to it, it is probably easier to find in an app new to the user and so worse it. > Bad mockup: > http://www.ultra-premium.com/scratch/volume.png Do you think it should be accessible through the right click menu of the window list? Mockup: http://static.ludwigf.org/stuff/gnome-use/volume-bar.png My thoughts about that: If it would be accessible through the right click menu of the window list it would controlling sound would get much easier and faster to reach but is it so important to get space there? Is sound that important? How many applications do you use that does any kind of sound? Asking myself that question I realized: all of them I use right now. (assuming it would work for epiphany and all content it can embedded) But how often do you change the volume of a single application? I'm not sure but it looks to be a non-regular task to me. A side note: If it would be in the right-click menu should it be disabled or hidden if the sound doesn't emit any sounds? As hiding changes the length of the list I thought its a bad idea but later on noticed the "Move to Workspace Right/Left" actually acts like this. But... I never noticed until today. Florian PSS I found a posting about this on brainstorm.ubuntu.com http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/15988/
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