Re: [Usability] Using Control-Esc and Windows keys to access the start menu

[Lennart Borgman <lennart borgman 073 student lu se>]

Steve Frécinaux wrote:
> Lennart Borgman wrote:
> > Sven Herzberg wrote:
> > > On So, 2006-08-20 at 16:00 +0200, Lennart Borgman wrote:
> > >  
> > > > I tried Control-Esc and the Windows keys to access the start menu, 
> > > > but none of them worked. I would really appreciate if they do. Is 
> > > > there any reason that they should not work the same way as on MS 
> > > > Windows? Would not that attract MS Windows users?
> > > >     
> > > Try Alt-F1. Alt is the modifier we often use for global keybindings.
> > > Maybe there's more explanations given in the Gnome HIG.
> > >   
> > Thanks Sven. I have later got that information but it was not there 
> > when I needed it.
> >
> > What I am looking for is the answer to the questions above. What are 
> > the opinion here about those questions? Why not try to welcome MS 
> > Windows users in this area?
>
> Alt+Escape is already used for something else. IMHO, Ctrl+Escape 
> wouldn't make sense wrt the current way we define shortcuts. And you 
> are likely to run into 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165343 if you try to use the 
> super (windows) key (and it's rather annoying to have the menu popping 
> everytime just because you hit the super key by accident)
Hi Steve, unfortunately nothing except Ctrl+Escape will do since that is 
what is used on MS Windows. Why does not that make sense?

I guess most MS Windows users wants the windows keys to behave as on MS 
Windows. (Personally I redefines them in Emacs, but that is another 
story. I do that to make Emacs behave more like an MS Windows app and 
most users who downloads my version seems to think that this is the way 
to go.)

Thanks for the pointer to the discussion.

My gut feeling (actually from before I entered here) is that personal 
preferences and an aversion against MS Windows is behind the lack of 
coherence with MS Windows here. Maybe I am wrong. Then I hope that you 
here on the list will show me why! It seems to me we are losing on that 
against MS Windows. Like a football team with a lot of individual stars.


> But appart from that, nothing is keeping you from defining your own 
> keybindings as you like them ;-)
Thanks, that have been my impression all the time. However I want the 
default to be as easy as possible for new GNOME users coming from MS 
Windows. Is not that a desireable goal?