Re: [Usability] any menu editor suggestions?



Am Freitag, den 25.03.2005, 23:09 +0100 schrieb Martin Ejdestig:
> On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 20:31 +0100, Christian Neumair wrote:
> > Of course, feel free to do so. I'd appreciate it :). Note that there is
> > not yet any bugzilla component for gnome-menu-editor, so you'd have to
> > create a new one. It would really be nice if you could handle that.
> > I'll most likely import gnome-menu-editor into GNOME CVS today.
> > 
> > I'd still like to know whether this is meant to be turned into a
> > full-fledged menu editor, which would allow adding application launchers
> > and other nifty things, or whether it should provide only very basic
> > functionality. I already received some private mail with proposals on
> > more sophisticated functions, we have to be sure on how this app should
> > look when it has reached 1.0 first, though.

Note that things changed meanwhile: I've made pretty good progress at
improving gnome-menu-editor. It displays application and menu icons, one
can add menus and applications and copy apps between various menus. I've
put many hours of work into this and it was a lot of fun :).

> I assume you are talking about my mail? :) Mmmm.. "sophisticated
> functions"... well...
> 
> 1. Displaying an icon to the left of the name (in the same column).
> 
> You didn't seem to like this with the rationale that it brought to much
> clutter? I don't know, personally I think icons helps users to associate
> things. (Else, why do we have icons in the Applications menu at all?)

Right, as I stated above, this is supported now.

> 2. My second concern is third party apps a user downloads from the net
> that can be run from whichever directory it is extracted to (which is,
> imho, how apps like these should work; just download an archive, extract
> it somewhere, open folder, click icon). How do you get that application
> to show up in the menu?

Hrm gnome-menu-editor now allows to drag binaries and scripts to the
application section (if only one menu is selected). A dialog pops up
with name and executable pre-filled, where the name is the basepath of
the exec path. Works and feels neat, actually :).

> My initial proposal was to make it possible to drop executbles/desktop
> files in the window and remove the entry when the executable is removed.

So you think it is a good idea to not display an entry whenever the
binary specified by the "Exec" field is not available? Doesn't sound
very practicable, really.

> I think this can be solved nicely by having the app copy a desktop file
> to .local/share/applications/ the first time it is started... right? If
> it doesn't... well, it's a bug in the app. :)

People who don't use packaging systems to install apps have been and are
still on their own.

I really recommend you to check out gnome-menu-editor and gnome-menus
HEAD, grab both of the gnome-menus patches mentioned in README (it's a
pitty you still need them) and give it a try.

-- 
Christian Neumair <chris gnome-de org>




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