-----Пересланное сообщение----- From: Murray Cumming Comneon com To: sergey oudaltsov clients ie Cc: jdub perkypants org, jrb redhat com, jody gnome org, release-team gnome org Subject: RE: Your final comments on gswitchit in 2.4... Date: 23 Jun 2003 18:03:16 +0200 Murray Cumming murrayc usa net www.murrayc.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Sergey V. Oudaltsov [mailto:sergey oudaltsov clients ie] > Sent: Montag, 23. Juni 2003 17:25 > To: Cumming Murray (COMNEON Linz) > Cc: jdub perkypants org; jrb redhat com; jody gnome org; > release-team gnome org > Subject: Re: Your final comments on gswitchit in 2.4... > > > > GNOME is probably not interested in a complete "keyboard > configurator" or a > That is a VERY GOOD QUESTION! Whether GNOME wants to give users full > control over XKB. From general GNOME policy ("reasonable defaults > wherever possible") I'm afraid the answer would be "no". But > I am just > afraid that many users are going to be left unhappy if we hide the > features already present in gswitchit. So be carefull > > > - Murray has a german keyboard. He uses an english keyboard > layout with it. > > He wants to type an o with an umlaut in gedit. > > He needs to switch to a german keyboard layout so that > pressing the > > o-with-an-umlaut key gives him an o-with-an-umlaut. > > Then we needs to switch back to an english keyboard layout. > Occational usage, do you mean? That's what "secondary layouts" are > about. BTW, this feature does not work if you don't add the applet do > the panel (actually, that is why I added TWO applets - the first one > configures XKB and these settings work even if you don't have > applet on > the panel). > > > - Bob spends half his time writing arabic and half the time > writing english. > Yes. Just 2 primary layouts. But that's not it. What users > also wanted: OK, but I think the terms "primary" and "secondary" layouts are not very clear. What are they meant to do exactly? Why does Murray need a secondary layout but Bob needs a primary layout? > - Remembering (optionally!) layout and indicators What is an "indicator" here? Is it just an icon telling me what layout I am using in the window? > per-window (that's > only possible with the applet on panel). Yes, I can see how that might be useful, but it might not be essential functionality. > - Configurable pixmaps for the applet Why is this necessary? > - Arbitrary commands to run at switching (there is no UI for > this - it > is configurable only in gconf) Again, why is this necessary? > - Configuring not only layouts (variants), but also they keys > to switch > between them (and other xkb configuration possibilities - though I > cannot say EXACTLY which ones are really requested - that is why all > "Options" are here today). I think it is sensible to start with basic functionality and add features when people make a good case for them, instead of starting with everything and then dealing with the complaints when you remove them. Murray Cumming murrayc usa net www.murrayc.com -- Sergey
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