[Usability]Re: toolbar issues

[Dave Bordoley <bordoley msu edu>]

On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:47, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> 
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 03:40, Alex Larsson wrote:
> > > At the moment the Galeon and Nautilus toolbars have a rightclick popup
> > > menu on the back, up, and forward buttons. While this is very useful,
> > > it's not very obvious that it's there. Also it has a lot of
> > > implementation problems, like bonoboui not really supporting rightclick
> > > stuff on toolbar buttons and stuff like that.
> > > IMHO Gnumeric and AbiWord solved this much better by having an arrow
> > > butotn next to their undo/redo buttons which drops down a list of
> > > possible actions. See http://nl.linux.org/~jorn/Files/dropdown.png.
> > > That way it's clear it's there, and there are no implementation
> > > problems.
> > > 
> > > Personally I would love to see that in both Nautilus and Galeon. I'm
> > > writing the Galeon toolbar code, but I could also make a patch for
> > > Nautilus if people are interested ...
> > 
> > Yeah. I'd love this. We're in a UI freeze, but perhaps we can get this one 
> > thing past the release team. Hopefully it fixes the stupid 
> > theme-background fuckup on the forward and back buttons too.
> 
> 	Guys, it's _Really_ unclear to me how the vague proposal above "having
> an arrow button next to their undo/redo buttons ..." actually maps to
> any concrete proposal whatsoever.
> 
> 	It seems to me Alex got gotcha'd by some stray UI innovator.
> 
> 	On the concrete side of doing it; to do it I propose adding an extra
> menu type [ since it does seem that this type is rather useful ],
> 
> 	<toolitem verb="Back" _label="Go Back"/>
> 		<context button="3">
> 			<menuitem  verb="RemoveButton"
> 			 _label="RemoveButton" .../>
> 			...
> 		</context>
> 		<popdown id="GoToLocation">
> 			<menuitem name="foo" value="file:///"
> 			 _label="/" .../>
> 			<menuitem name="baa" value="smb:///"
> 			 _label="baa" .../>
> 			...
> 		</popdown>
> 	</toolitem>
> 
> 	And then we snarf the gnumeric code straight into libbonoboui and have
> done with it.
> 
> 	Would that satisfy the requirements ?
> 
> > I personally think text on toolbars is crack. Especially on only some of 
> > the items. If the user enables crack perhaps we should give it to him 
> > though.
> 
> 	The evolution team use it quite a lot, and priority text seems to make
> a chunk of sense in evolution [ and a good few MS apps, where the
> purpose of a button is not instantly apparent ].
> 
> 	Regards,
> 
> 		Michael.
> 
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>  mmeeks gnu org  <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
> 
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