[Usability]Re: toolbar issues
- From: Dave Bordoley <bordoley msu edu>
- To: Michael Meeks <michael ximian com>
- Cc: Alex Larsson <alexl redhat com>, Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>, nautilus-list gnome org, galeon-devel lists sourceforge net, usability gnome org, bonobo <gnome-components-list gnome org>
- Subject: [Usability]Re: toolbar issues
- Date: 21 May 2002 11:55:32 -0400
On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 11:47, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 03:40, Alex Larsson wrote:
> > > At the moment the Galeon and Nautilus toolbars have a rightclick popup
> > > menu on the back, up, and forward buttons. While this is very useful,
> > > it's not very obvious that it's there. Also it has a lot of
> > > implementation problems, like bonoboui not really supporting rightclick
> > > stuff on toolbar buttons and stuff like that.
> > > IMHO Gnumeric and AbiWord solved this much better by having an arrow
> > > butotn next to their undo/redo buttons which drops down a list of
> > > possible actions. See http://nl.linux.org/~jorn/Files/dropdown.png.
> > > That way it's clear it's there, and there are no implementation
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > Personally I would love to see that in both Nautilus and Galeon. I'm
> > > writing the Galeon toolbar code, but I could also make a patch for
> > > Nautilus if people are interested ...
> > Yeah. I'd love this. We're in a UI freeze, but perhaps we can get this one
> > thing past the release team. Hopefully it fixes the stupid
> > theme-background fuckup on the forward and back buttons too.
> Guys, it's _Really_ unclear to me how the vague proposal above "having
> an arrow button next to their undo/redo buttons ..." actually maps to
> any concrete proposal whatsoever.
> It seems to me Alex got gotcha'd by some stray UI innovator.
> On the concrete side of doing it; to do it I propose adding an extra
> menu type [ since it does seem that this type is rather useful ],
> <toolitem verb="Back" _label="Go Back"/>
> <context button="3">
> <menuitem verb="RemoveButton"
> _label="RemoveButton" .../>
> <popdown id="GoToLocation">
> <menuitem name="foo" value="file:///"
> _label="/" .../>
> <menuitem name="baa" value="smb:///"
> _label="baa" .../>
> And then we snarf the gnumeric code straight into libbonoboui and have
> done with it.
> Would that satisfy the requirements ?
> > I personally think text on toolbars is crack. Especially on only some of
> > the items. If the user enables crack perhaps we should give it to him
> > though.
> The evolution team use it quite a lot, and priority text seems to make
> a chunk of sense in evolution [ and a good few MS apps, where the
> purpose of a button is not instantly apparent ].
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