Re: [Usability] newbie suggestions ...

[Gregory Merchan <merchan phys lsu edu>]

Hi. I'm the guy working on this section. You've linked the cvs version,
so please note that that is in flux as I'm merging comments from the first
round of internal review. (Which occurred before the release.)

On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 10:04:41PM +0000, Alan wrote:
> 
> newbie suggestions and stuff:
> 
> http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/draft_hig/standard-menus.html#the-file-menu
> 
> I'd like to add the keybindings 
> Ctrl+A 	Select All

This is there now. See the Edit menu.


> Ctrl+O	Open (in the picture, but not on the page text)

The text doesn't match the graphics in CVS at the moment.


> ill submit patches if there are no objections.  cvs -u or cvs -c, any
> preferences?

Provide a  general subject line and I'll reply more quickly. ;-)
I have the setup to handle the docbook work and it's easier for me to
read and type than to apply a patch in any format. Plain text, especially
with explanations, is more rapidly digested.


> http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/draft_hig/keyboard.html#shortcuts
> I use gnome on (Solaris?BSD?)Sparc (sometimes) and the command key is
> Alt not Ctrl.  
> Same goes for BeOS, and then there is the Mac ... even though they dont
> run Gnome its good to be portable.  

We've standardized on Control for shortcuts (a.k.a. accelerators in toolkit),
and Alt for access keys (a.k.a. mnemonics in toolkit)

> Im curious why there is menu called "Open Recent" and not simply
> "Recent", is that implication too subtle?  

Yes.

> What i know about usuability is from my personal experience, and working
> with family and friends who want the computer to "Just Work", and a
> reasonable amount of reading on the internet.  
> Educate me, dont flame me.  I'm a critic not a diplomat.  I like Gnome
> and i just want to make it better.  
> 
> Just reading and i noticed that Find Again/Find Next and Ctrl+R or
> Ctrl+H are "for discussion" so ill add my 2 pence (im not going to call
> them cents when the Euro comes in either).  
> 
> As someone who has spoken English for almost 21 years :) i think Find
> Next sounds better.  

Find Next has been chosen (at the moment ;-).

> As a windows user (i use various Operating Systems, i wish i could use
> Gnome or at least gnome apps on more of them so dont flame me) i would
> prefer to have the shortcut Ctrl+H rather than Ctrl+R.  Some graphics
> applications use Ctrl+R as a shortcut to Crop (i think, i dont have any
> substantial Graphics apps to hand).  Its not necessarily the best
> answer, im just saying that it is what im used to 
> (but please dont use F3, microsoft seem to switch the usage of Ctrl+F/F3
> totally randomly in some programs).  

One of the possibilities is to remove the Replace item and merge that function
with Find.  Replace isn't a good word for all cases because some apps provide
a Find and Change function. (Think of adding markup rather than changing
content).  The result of a Find and Change command would be a utility window
containing both instead of a dialog.


> Mise le meas
> Alan Horkan
> 
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Cheers, and I hope brevity doesn't sound like flames,
Greg Merchan