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Re: [Tracker] Fwd: Re: Linux TOPCRASH 38.1.0. Crash Reports in libsqlite3.*

block has been requested via https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1189264 


On 8/1/2015 9:51 AM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) wrote:

Yes, as I understand it we can block specific versions of addons. And
this is probably the way we must go in this case.


On 8/1/2015 9:36 AM, Carlos Garnacho wrote:

Hey,

Since this is getting off-list, I'm adding Adrien Bustany to CC, he's
the author of the trackerbird plugin.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA)
<vseerror lehigh edu> wrote:

On 8/1/2015 3:36 AM, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:


Hi,

Am 31.07.2015 um 15:09 schrieb Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA):


Wolf can perhaps answer your questions about versions.

Do we have any way of knowing whether any users are using the newer
trackerbird on this version of suse without crashes?



Users do not have an easy way to run newer versions.
I'm wondering which versions are active of the addon in our rolling
distribution at the moment but also in that case I cannot tell if it
works there. The amount of feedback is usually pretty low.


As far as backtraces, I don't have any. And Thunderbird crash reports
are probably are not useful

https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6a8233d2-8dca-4df5-8d45-cacc02150720




I don't have them either at this moment. I actually stopped to look
deeper into them.

I'm not sure yet what we should do about that addon short term and also
long term. I've added Dominique to this thread because of that.
If it's possible to make it work w/o blacklisting you have my support.
It's just that over the past years I have seen far too many crashes of
TB because of the addon. And yes, many times it started when
Thunderbird
was updated so it takes also some part of the blame. The issue is that
not updating TB is not really an option because of security reasons. So
with every bigger jump of TB I meanwhile expect 100% breakage with the
addon which is pretty annoying over time.

I'm just not sure what to do about it.



I'd like to decide by this Monday, because we want to turn Thunderbird
updates back on, worst case in 10 days.


This all sounds to me like an almost taken decision tbh...



For future (not exactly now) one starting point would be to not have max
version extend across major Thunderbird releases.  Eg the v1.2.6
trackerbird
has Maxversion=39 but it might be better if had been more pessimistic
and
used Maxversion=37


I find this confusing:

$ git grep -i maxversion
src/plugins/thunderbird/install.rdf.in:
<em:maxVersion>24.*</em:maxVersion>

This is on the tracker-1.2 branch, are we sure this is no distro
packaging gotcha? (and yes, I realize that versions is old, doesn't
tell much of the maintenance state of the thunderbird plugin)

Knowing nothing about how blacklisting in thunderbird works, can't you
block by plugin version? If only 1.2.x is affected as it seemed to me,
it seems more realistic to blacklist that specific version than
identifying fixes across ~1y of development with basically no
information, rolling a last 1.2.x tarball and expecting distros/users
to catch up on such short notice.

   Carlos






Wolfgang


On 7/31/2015 8:06 AM, Carlos Garnacho wrote:


Hi Wayne,

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA)
<vseerror lehigh edu> wrote:


The addon is causing a topcrash for opensuse users using THunderbird
38.

We haven't yet filed a mozilla blocklist request against it. But we
will
need to if a fix cannot be developed in the very new future.



Sorry to hear that, hopefully we can work this out.

I'm unsure how to read the data in the links below, is it true that
the crashes in 1.4.0 drop from the previous 1.2.x version? If that's
the case, I can only recommend updating, 1.4.0 is the latest stable
release (we're now actually heading to the next 1.6 stable series).

Tracker 1.2.x development is in any case discontinued, we could
try to
identify the fix and roll a last 1.2 tarball, but I'm not sure how
fast would distros catch up.

Also, is there any chance we may have backtraces or similar?

Cheers,
     Carlos



distro contact
Wolf Rosenauer (TB linux OpenSuse distro contact wolfir)
<mozilla rosenauer org>


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Linux TOPCRASH 38.1.0. Crash Reports in libsqlite3.*
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:17:37 -0400
From: Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) <vseerror lehigh edu>
To: Christian Riechers <chriechers netscape net>

On 7/24/2015 1:12 PM, Christian Riechers wrote:



On 07/24/2015 07:04 PM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) wrote:



On 7/24/2015 12:40 PM, Christian Riechers wrote:



On 07/24/2015 04:51 PM, Wayne Mery (Thunderbird QA) wrote:



the following confirms axs' findings about trackerbird mentioned
on IRC

do a 'find' on libsqlite3.so
-


https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/crash_analysis/20150724/20150724_Thunderbird_38.1.0-interesting-addons-with-versions.txt



-


https://crash-analysis.mozilla.com/crash_analysis/20150724/20150724_Thunderbird_38.1.0-interesting-addons.txt




I'll file a blocklist bug request later today, unless someone
beats me
to it.


cc: Christian




Doesn't seem to be a problem here, and I think my SUSE is up to
date.

Information for package libsqlite3-0:
-------------------------------------
Repository: openSUSE-13.2-Oss
Name: libsqlite3-0
Version: 3.8.6-1.2
Arch: i586
Vendor: openSUSE
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 777.8 KiB
Summary: Shared libraries for the Embeddable SQL Database Engine




odd.
what version of trackerbird do you have installed?




Not sure what 'trackerbird' is, I suppose this is about 'tracker'.

Information for package tracker:
--------------------------------
Repository: openSUSE-13.2-Update
Name: tracker
Version: 1.2.6-9.1
Arch: i586
Vendor: openSUSE
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
Installed Size: 2.3 MiB
Summary: Powerful object database, tag/metadata database, search
tool
and indexer
Description:
      Tracker is a powerful desktop-neutral first class object
      database, tag/metadata database, search tool and indexer.

      It consists of a common object database that allows
entities to
      have an almost infinite number of properties, metadata (both
      embedded/harvested as well as user definable), a
comprehensive
      database of keywords/tags and links to other entities.

      It provides additional features for file-based objects
      including context linking and audit trails for a file object.

      It has the ability to index, store, harvest metadata,
retrieve
      and search all types of files and other first class objects.



Yes, opensuse users with version 1.2.6 trackerbird and
thunderbird 38
experience a startup crash


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