Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] How about a release ?

[Sriram Ramkrishna <sri spiritone com>]

This seems to be a limitation with having your own cross platform
database.  What about moving towards a different backend and then
changing the query model to reflect that?

I had thought about the same limitations myself, that was one of the
things behind working on an sqlite backend.    The query system was very
good but somewhat limiting.  Maintaing that portion I thought was
somewhat burdensome.

We have the basis of a patch, on the sqlite backend which seems to be
pretty popular with a lot of music player applications.  It would take a
lot of pain but if we maintained the same api we could possibly get it
right.

sri



On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 09:39:00PM +1000, Jonathan Matthew wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:00:36AM +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:52 +1000, Jonathan Matthew wrote:
> > > 
> > > I hope to be able to make a new release in the next month or so.  This
> > > will probably be numbered 0.12.0.  After that, I'm not planning to do
> > > much new development work on the rhythmbox project as it currently
> > > exists.  I'll still fix (some) bugs and review patches, but it's too
> > > much of a dead end for me to do more than that.
> > 
> > Why is it too much of a dead-end? The feature list stacks up nicely
> > against other music players, and although using C might be making our
> > life harder in some cases, I'm not sure I see ways to replace it in many
> > distributions.
> 
> I'm not disputing that at all.  If I just saw rhythmbox as markedly
> inferior to a similar project, I'd probably go and hack on that, or let
> them continue as they are and find something else to do with my time.
> 
> I don't have a concise summary of the problems I have with the current
> rhythmbox.  It's been building up over the last six months or so, maybe
> longer.
> 
> Anyway, my main problem is that the underlying data model is too rigid
> and limited:
> - the set of queryable entry properties is fixed
> - entry properties can't have multiple values
> - albums don't exist, they're synthesized from whatever
>   entries happen to match the album name
> - file metadata, observed user data (play count, etc.), and user provided data
>   (ratings) are all stored together when they'd be more useful separate
> - the database is designed specifically to support implementation of the
>   genre->artist->album browser and doesn't work so well for other
>   things.
> - it doesn't always make sense that sources are completely distinct from
>   each other
> 
> These things are pretty much baked into every aspect of rhythmbox.
> Rhythmbox is fine for what it is, but I don't think I can make it into
> what I want it to be.
> 
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