Re: Thoughts about the proposed modules

[Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net>]

As I have an appointment on late Sunday and don't know yet if/how long I
can be around online I'd also like to share my current thoughts here.


Am Dienstag, den 27.10.2009, 11:14 +0100 schrieb Olav Vitters:
> External dependencies
> =====================
> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentynine/ExternalDependencies
> 
> libdb
> already approved
> 
> 
> gmime
> +1, haven't investigated this much

+1. I'd love to see Evolution switching to gmime but there's probably no
manpower for pushing this.
Also this removes one obstacle for getting Seahorse support into
Evolution ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508744 ).

> vala
> +1, would enable us to ship only the real source files and skip the
> generated .c files

+1. It's an interesting project that has received positive reception and
could create more developer interest in our platform.

> Desktop
> =======
> http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentynine/Desktop
> 
> clutter-core
> +1, IF fully uses either GNOME infrastructure, or freedesktop.org
> currently git module is on clutter-project.org
> Bugzilla is on http://bugzilla.openedhand.com/
> --> both need to be changed

+1 in agreement with what Olav wrote here.

> couch-db, evolution-couchdb
> -1, highly recommended dependency on Mozilla js, other than that I'm
> undecided. Seems thought it needed on bigger picture. Thread has
> suggestions that it might be reinventing Nepomuk ontologies. How does
> this interact with tracker and the stuff KDE is doing?
> 
> | "Many people consider e4x
> | (http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-357.htm)
> | to be a feature available in couchdb JS views"
> and libseed doesn't have that it seems

+/-0.

> dconf
> +1, sane settings should be migrated when it makes sense
> GNOME 3.0 at 2.32 because of dconf
> something about dbus changing, gdbus/dconf not supporting that (fd type)


+1. Totally agreeing with everything. We should NOT push this for 2.30
though (migration issues still not totally clear to me), but definitely
for 2.32.

> gnome-packagekit
> +1, purely because it will provide a better user experience. Nautilus
> can automatically select things to be installed using packagekit. I saw
> something similar for file-roller. Being able to rely on packagekit
> working on a distro is good.

+1, for consistency across distributions. I've been using it on my
Fedora machine for a long time and it's simply great.

> nautilus-actions
> -1, too specific IMO, rather have a better MIME system that also defines
> actions like Print, etc

+/-0. I must admit that I have never really used it that much myself.

> nautilus-sendto
> +1, useful

+1. Using it quite often here. Simply works and is nice at least for my
desktop experience.

> tracker
> ?, undecided
> I should investigate the differences between tracker, couchdb, dconf and
> how they all should interact. Haven't done that, so keeping this as
> undecided.
> There is an outstanding question in the thread regarding
> | to sustain it: inotify. inotify is simply not suitable for recursively
> | watching $HOME, but Tracker tries that nonetheless. And that is a big
> | big failure, it should not do that.
> 
> Response from that:
> | So we discussed this at the kernel-fixing-bof at GCDS. IIRC we basically
> | decided that being able to have a recursive inotify with a new flag was
> | the best option. Matthew Garrett was planning on taking the issues that
> | we discussed to the kernel developers, so I'm ccing him here for his
> | input.

Slightly +1 here. I think that it makes sense to have tracker in the
long run. Plus they nowadays have a powerful and reliable developer
team.

> globalmenu
> -1, conflicts with gnome-shell
> Note: doesn't use GNOME git

-1, simply for being unresponsive and hence not answering/covering some
of the upcoming questions - there were ~two responses trying to cover
everything, two weeks after all the questions were asked, plus I asked
them again 10 days ago to consider sending an update to d-d-l at
http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/issues/detail?id=388#c25 .

andre
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