Re: Request for freeze break -- feature & string freeze for 2.14.x cycle

On 4/12/06, Kjartan Maraas <kmaraas broadpark no> wrote:
> ons, 12,.04.2006 kl. 10.38 -0600, skrev Elijah Newren:
> > Yeah, I suck.  I know alarm bells are going off and this looks pretty
> > bad.  However, the focus behavior for programs launched from a
> > terminal unfortunately appears to be really badly hated (yes, this
> > only affects users using a terminal).  Ubuntu has already patched it
> > out (though I'm getting lots of strange bug reports about Ubuntu and
> > focus which people report go away with our tarballs, making me think
> > there's something amiss in their patches), and the bug is marked as an
> > FC5-updates blocker.  So, I'm guessing they'll take the patch (or hack
> > something else together) even if this isn't approved.  I'm not aware
> > of the situation in other distros but those are the big two shipping
> > with 2.14 right now that I know of.
> >
> > So, I'd like to apply Ron Yorston's patch in bug 326159 to make a
> > focus_new_windows option, which simultaneously changes the default
> > behavior back to what it was in 2.12.  (I don't feel reverting the
> > default without adding the option isn't a good idea; there's no need
> > to punch the users in the face who have been requesting 'strict' focus
> > options for years and finally saw this bug'd just be too
> > cruel)
> >
> > Alternative ideas welcome.  I know this really, really sucks, and I
> > should be publicly whipped, but it seemed to be worth bringing up for
> > your consideration as I think not taking this is going to cause more
> > pain and bugs than breaking the freeze.
> 1/2 from me. I agree with the suckiness of the timing and all, but I
> think it's worth it.

You have your string freeze approval from me. From looking at the
patch ( attached to
the bug report (, it
seems the only new strings that the patch adds is the two messages for
a new GConf key in metacity. Furthermore, this sounds (from your
description) like a serious problem that bothers the distros.

As always, once you have had all approvals necessary and committed the
patch, please let translators know so they know when it's time to
update their metacity translations. Also, if you plan to do a new bug
fix release soon, please let the translators know so they know how
much time they have to fix the translations.


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