Re: [pygtk] Turning the PyGTK+ brand into something more than it currently is

[Giuseppe Penone <giuspen gmail com>]

I totally agree with Jasper.

New PyGobject is lame because misses its own reference and doesn't work on windows (well this is mainly a GTK3 issue...)

I read that there's no need of reference because gtk3 reference is enough, well I'm a gtk3 and gtkmm3 developer over a pygtk developer (my most used app is www.giuspen.com/cherrytree) but still I miss pygtk reference when doing something in PyGobject.

I read somewhere that gtkmm generates the reference automatically from gtk, why can't pygobject do the same?

As for GTK3 on windows I read something is moving in the last times, I hope the porting will be complete soon. 

Cheers,
Giuseppe.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre mecheye net> wrote:

I like Python. I help new people out in Python IRC channels, on forums, and I recommend Python to friends and family who say they want to learn programming.

At some point, the time comes when they want to start doing fancy graphical GUI stuff. And after a little bit of research, they come to a dilemma: "should I use PyGTK+ or PyQt?"

They don't know that PyGTK+ is dead, or if they somehow found that out, they don't realize that there's a better replacement right around the corner. http://www.pygtk.org/ is still around, but it looks like it hasn't been updated since 1998, given the retro scanline effect on the header. It of course also doesn't help that the last notable news event was reported on April Fools.

Sometimes they've heard of this "PyGObject", but they conclude it's a low-level plumbing layer.

The PyGTK+ reference docs come up a lot when Googling for them; obviously, our better documentation solution actually based on introspection information isn't ready yet, but I wonder if there's some minor tweaks we can make to make the solution suck less there.

I think we could do a lot more with the PyGTK+ name and http://www.pygtk.org/ to promote gobject-introspection as our new, exciting solution. If nothing else, it rolls off the tongue much easier. Say it a few times.

Anybody have any other ideas here?

--
  Jasper


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