Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

[Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1 gmail com>]

Hello,

What is the issue with Google Groups?

I chose Google Groups as Freelists has given me trouble in the past, particularly with spam and messages Freelists thinks are spam, and groups.io requires payment past a certain member threshold. If GoogleGroups isn't suitable and members aren't willing to join, that's fine, please someone create a list on a provider that works and I'll happily delete this one and join the new one. The goal here is to support the community in this transition and to still have a place for discussion that doesn't require using web forums.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:57 AM Didier Spaier via orca-list <orca-list gnome org> wrote:

Hello,

sorry but I will not join, because I do not want to use Google groups

Cheers,
Didier

Le 20/10/2022 à 11:50, Nimer Jaber via orca-list a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> Given the number of messages and interest in such a short time, I've set up the
> orca-list Google group.
>
> To subscribe, send a blank email to orca-list+subscribe googlegroups com
> <mailto:orca-list%2Bsubscribe googlegroups com> or
> visit https://groups.google.com/g/orca-list <https://groups.google.com/g/orca-list>
>
> If it turns out that there is no reason for this group to exist, it can always
> be closed.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:33 AM Jace Kattalakkis via orca-list
> <orca-list gnome org <mailto:orca-list gnome org>> wrote:
>
>     To be fair, I've seen on comments elsewhere that just because Python2 is
>     deprecated, doesn't mean people will abandon it.
>
>
>     I can cite numerous examples, and at least or me, I find Orca's keys
>     clash with Discourse's, plus I much prefer the convenience of an email
>     list to quickly check, vs having to log into a forum.
>
>     Has Discourse improved its email list options, since the last I heard,
>     you got every email in a big orum, then a digest, plus topics you
>     started. Has this changed at all?
>
>
>     On 10/20/22 12:25, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
>     > Hello,
>     >
>     > As I doubt I will spend much time on Discourse or any other web forum, and
>     > as I am losing the convenience of email for the intent behind this list,
>     > I'd like to see if others feel the same way, and whether there is any
>     > interest in creating a list on another provider such as Google groups. It
>     > saddens me that the needs and desires of our community weren't considered,
>     > and feedback wasn't sought before a decision like this was forced on us,
>     > but we as a community could band around another list, if people are
>     > interested and think it would see some use. Otherwise, if people are
>     > content with the new Discourse, then please disregard this message.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:13 AM Andrea Veri <av gnome org
>     <mailto:av gnome org>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
>     >> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
>     >> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of October
>     >> 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse
>     >> instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to
>     >> initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
>     >> out to me directly.
>     >>
>     >> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
>     >> follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse.
>     >> The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
>     >> Account and other major OpenID providers.
>     >>
>     >> After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
>     >> alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind
>     >> an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
>     >> Discourse instead.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >>
>     >> P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the
>     >> deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
>     >> how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase
>     >>
>     >> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org <https://discourse.gnome.org>
>     >> [2]
>     >>
>     https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html <https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html>
>     >> [3]
>     >>
>     https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5 <https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> Cheers,
>     >> Andrea
>     >>
>     >> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
>     >> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
>     >> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
>     >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
>     >>
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>
> Nimer Jaber
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Best,

Nimer Jaber

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