Re: [orca-list] Are we Flutter yet?

[Rastislav Kish <rastislav kish protonmail com>]

I forgot to add, my configuration is Ubuntu Mate 20.04 64-bit, Orca
built today from source.


Best regards


Rastislav


Dňa 17. 1. 2022 o 1:14 Rastislav Kish napísal(a):
> Hello list,
>
> a recent article on It's FOSS
>
> https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-22-04-release-features/
>
> about changes in the upcoming LTS release of Ubuntu has stated, that
> 22.04 is going to use the new Flutter based installer, which has been
> worked on for quite a some time as far as I remember.
>
>
> Thus I wondered, what is the state of the Flutter accessibility and how
> usable is it.
>
>
> I've switched my Flutter SDK to the master channel and upgraded to the
> latest version.
>
> Then, I built a very simple calculator app - one window with two text
> fields for entering numbers, a dropdown menu for selecting operator and
> a button for calculating the result, displayed below the form.
>
>
> The results were... Interesting.
>
> First of all, the accessibility either works or not.
>
> Like... One time I launch it and nothing, I can be pressing tab,
> clicking on the interface, but Orca simply doesn't recognize the window
> elements (though flat review sees the text, interestingly, although only
> in the particular window visit i.e. if something changes, the change is
> not reflected unless I switch to another window and back).
>
>
> But, in other cases, either right after launching the app, or after some
> switching and tabbing, Orca finally manages to get a grip of the
> interface and it works... mostly.
>
> I can't see the content of text fields, but the navigation works,
> pressing buttons works and (to my surprise) even the dropdown button
> works (and quite nicely!).
>
> One peculiarity is, that all buttons for some reason present themselves
> as unavailable, even though they work as expected.
>
>
> Another interesting thing I've found out is, that when the app is not
> accessible, when I change its state to maximized or back, in a time
> window of few seconds, when I press tab, Orca speaks the newly focused
> element.
>
>
> Any further tabs or simply missing out the time frame makes things
> silent again.
>
>
> Of course, it is possible I made a mistake somewhere when coding the
> app, I have no previous experience doing Flutter projects, in fact, I
> did thisone mostly to get a grip of the framework and explore the new
> trends.
>
> Though the result looks ok as far as I can tell, I've checked with
> OCRDesktop and the elements are visible.
>
> Plus, the official example Hello world app behaves in the same way, so
> this seems like a general problem.
>
>
> Thus, I wonder, what's the official state of Flutter accessibility on Linux?
>
> And where should we report bugs like these?
>
>
> There were discussions about this on GitHub, namely:
>
> https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/23601
>
> and
>
> https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/73819
>
>
> Both of which are closed as of now with the topic considered to be
> solved and new issues supposed to be about specific problems.
>
>
> The former mentions Linux several times, though, just in form of tags
> except the first and last mention, while the latter does not mention it
> at all and neither of the following issues seem to be related to Linux
> Flutter accessibility.
>
>
> So far I've found.
>
> Does anyone have more information on this topic?
>
>
> I'm not sure whether Ubuntu Mate is going to use the new Ubuntu desktop
> installer. It would be nice to have it working properly (unlike in case
> of the last LTS (grin)).
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav