Re: [orca-list] Small status update for plugin system based orca

[José Vilmar Estácio de Souza <vilmar informal com br>]

Hi Chrys.
I have noticed this problem since the older versions of orca. I don't 
think it would be easy to find the commit that introduced this problem 
using bisect.
Anyway, I'm going to see if I can find a way to reproduce the problem 
and see if the debug has something that might help.

I would like to take the opportunity to suggest that in the version 
presented by orca, an information was added that we are using the 
version of orca that implements plugins.
The information presented by orca is activated by pressing orca_keh+h.
I usually put my machine in hibernate mode and I end up forgetting which 
version of orca is active.

Thanks and congratulations for the excellent work.

On 6/18/21 6:32 PM, chrys wrote:
> howdy José,
>
> yea i see this here as well while programming and testing. i thought 
> this would be normal. also if it does not always happen.
> maybe can you bisect this?
>
> cheers chrys
>
> Am 18.06.21 um 19:33 schrieb José Vilmar Estácio de Souza:
> > Hi Chrys, works for me.
> >
> >
> > Just for the record, one thing I've noticed about orca is that every 
> > now and then, when exiting the preferences screen with the esc key, 
> > the orca takes at least 5 seconds to get back up and running. This 
> > has nothing to do with the implementations made by Chrys as it has 
> > been happening for some time.
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/21 12:10 PM, chrys wrote:
> > > Howdy Patrick, Howdy storm,
> > >
> > > i found and fixed the issues. i forgott to migrate some bits :).
> > > please pull and retry.
> > >
> > > Am 18.06.21 um 15:22 schrieb Patrick ZAJDA:
> > > > Hi chrys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is 991a99a78479c4dff524c35798f3c26c2d9e1c63
> > > >
> > > > Which has the same commit message as 
> > > > e868211f43d9b0d8cb8399c23742882b724a3e46 where make install fail.
> > > >
> > > > That is why I supose it is the first commit I told.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 18/06/2021 à 14:43, chrys a écrit :
> > > > > Howdy Patrick,
> > > > >
> > > > > you say since this morning,
> > > > > are you able to bisect the commit what breaks mate-panel for you?
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 18.06.21 um 13:12 schrieb Patrick ZAJDA:
> > > > > > Hi Chrys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I pulled this morning and since this, I cannot use Alt+F1 (on 
> > > > > > Mate) anymore. Arrows does not make Orca announcing anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Revision: fcda9658e7c957f6b1169de1361fa9d4dcc2d192
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When switching to Orca Master, revision 
> > > > > > b379c1a8453832fc871c67703297551dd46fdc55 all is OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another question about the plugin system itself: are plugins 
> > > > > > placed in the user directory (in the plugins directory) supposed 
> > > > > > to work?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patrick
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 17/06/2021 à 23:27, Linux A11y a écrit :
> > > > > > > Howdy List,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A small update of my current work on an plugin system based orca.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - i merged in all of Joanies work from master (till 1:00 PM UTC 
> > > > > > > June 17 2021). So the plugin system branch is on pair with orca 
> > > > > > > master.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - i created an SignalManager. This component is, like the name 
> > > > > > > says, used for register and emit signals or check for its 
> > > > > > > existence. So we can define a set of signals what plugins can 
> > > > > > > connect to or plugins can register and emit signals by there own.
> > > > > > > - dynamic API manager: well sounds mystic, but the idea behind 
> > > > > > > is that plugins can register own API, objects, functions, 
> > > > > > > variables and all kind of that. So others can consume those and/ 
> > > > > > > or  extend its functionality based on it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Both objects live in our shiny new orca class.  The orca class 
> > > > > > > should hold all basic components and all needed API, as goal, 
> > > > > > > all orca code should in an roof or main class. So we can easy 
> > > > > > > share its API with plugins or let them extend it.
> > > > > > > I also placed the scriptmanager-, eventmanager-, settings 
> > > > > > > manager classes there (also if they should be reworked to fit 
> > > > > > > better in shape) and the plugin system manager. So the way to 
> > > > > > > use ocas API will just happen starting from that class 
> > > > > > > containing all API, settings and states.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - i just started implementing an very basic plugin manager. But 
> > > > > > > this is not useable yet. I will inform as soon as it is ready 
> > > > > > > for testing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - i also started with an base class for orca plugins, but here i 
> > > > > > > have some trouble with get mixed plugin objects in libpeas ( 
> > > > > > > they all register just fine, but deregister all as clipboard 
> > > > > > > plugin. Not sure what mix it up, but i will figure anytime lol)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - we already have some early adopters for testing to warranty we 
> > > > > > > don't break anything. Thanks to Patrick and storm here for much 
> > > > > > > needed testing!
> > > > > > >   Current goal is just to bring an basic plugin structure in 
> > > > > > > without break anything. No new settings, no real new 
> > > > > > > functionality. All should just work as it is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers chrys
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