Re: [orca-list] Solving screenreader sound problems in presence of sound servers once and for all

[Didier Spaier <didier slint fr>]

A meant "not redirect the streams coming from ALSA to PA", sorry.

Le 20/02/2021 à 18:10, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit :
> Hi Matthew,
>
> That was my assumption. In Slint it works out of the box, so it would 
> certainly
> be possible in Debian if only someone could convince the maintainers of 
> ALSA
> and PulseAudio for Debian to use dmix as mixer for PA by default and not
> redirect the streams coming from PA to ALSA. But hey, I have written 
> that years
> ago and am not in concern, sorry for beating this dead horse again.
>
> Le 20/02/2021 à 17:48, ilovecountrymusic483 gmail com a écrit :
> > Didider,
> >
> > What I think he is referring to is being able to use orca and speakup 
> > at the same time.  Ie using orca with a gui system such as gnome or 
> > mate and get speech ina concile with speak-up or fenner.  At the 
> > moment, you have to do some editing of some configuration files 
> > inorder to get both working orca and speech working together.  At 
> > least in Debian, this works in other distros like arch this is not so 
> > easy.  HTH.
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: orca-list <orca-list-bounces gnome org> On Behalf Of Didier 
> > Spaier via orca-list
> > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 9:17 AM
> > To: orca-list gnome org; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 
> > <speakup linux-speakup org>
> > Subject: Re: [orca-list] Solving screenreader sound problems in 
> > presence of sound servers once and for all
> >
> > I suggest that you bring this issue to a support channel for your
> > distribution
> > as this works out of the box in others.
> >
> > There is nothing to be pushed upstream (to ALSA or PulseAudio 
> > developers) as
> > this depends on the configuration provided by the distribution in use or
> > customized by the user.
> >
> > Didier
> >
> > Le 20/02/2021 à 14:23, Michał Zegan via orca-list a écrit :
> > > How does it work then, if pulseaudio releases device, and some gui
> > > program plays something, it plays on pulseaudio, so you shouldn't be
> > > hearing it on console because pa just released the device.
> > > Also in any case it's still the thing. Things like that should work out
> > > of the box and shouldn't require workarounds. So if there is a proper
> > > way to fix it that would make it hassle free it should be considered to
> > > be pushed upstream, if it cannot be pushed upstream, then the issues
> > > that prevent it should be mitigated.
> > >
> > >
> > > W dniu 20.02.2021 o 14:18, Jookia pisze:
> > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 02:12:54PM +0100, Michał Zegan wrote:
> > > > > This is the thing, you need hacks to work around stuff, and then 
> > > > > you get
> > > > > drawbacks.
> > > > > For example does your setup allow me to play sound on gui and hear 
> > > > > it on
> > > > > console when I log in to the same user, or, play sound on console when
> > > > > screenreader is speaking?
> > > > > Like the last one is likely possible if espeakup uses dmix.
> > > >
> > > > Yes to both.
> > >
> > >
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