Re: [orca-list] terminal on android



And I am curious if things like fenrir work on pure termux or proot arch.

W dniu 20.02.2021 o 03:48, mattias jonsson pisze:
peter, how do you run arch on termux?
because termux are deb based

Den 19 februari 2021 20:41:50 skrev Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>:

Hello,

This is very interesting stuff.

I will have a play with all you have posted next week.

To add to this discussion, I'm running arch linux with proot on termux
and I've got emacs, speechd-el and speech-dispatcher working there.

Greetings

Peter

Dňa 19. 2. 2021 o 20:21 Rynhardt Kruger napísal(a):

This thread got me interested in revisiting screen readers on Termux.
I found that the python-based Tdsr screen reader is able to run on a
basic Termux install, but as Speech-dispatcher isn't available there,
it requires an alternative speech server.
Therefore I wrote a very quick and dirty speech server using Espeak
through a pipe. Espeak is available from the Termux package manager.
If anyone is interested to play with this, the speech server is
available here:

http://blinet.ml/espeakpipe.py <http://blinet.ml/espeakpipe.py>

To use, launch Tdsr like so:

$ tdsr -s <path_to_espeakpipe.py>

Admittedly it uses some hackish methods to get around Termux's
limitations, most notably it needs to kill espeak and start it up
again in order to cancel speech. I also tried calling the espeak
library directly via ctypes, but for some reason it fails to cancel on
Termux when calling espeak_Cancel(). Nevertheless, the library driver
is also available, in case someone wants to reproduce this result:

http://blinet.ml/espeaklib.py <http://blinet.ml/espeaklib.py>

I also noticed that Talkback would by default grab some keystrokes,
making them unavailable to Tdsr. One workaround is to remap the
Talkback modifier to the search key, if one's keyboard includes one.
Another (less favourable) workaround is to suspend Talkback with
ctrl+alt+z before using Tdsr.

Regards,

Rynhardt

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:52 AM Michał Zegan via orca-list
<orca-list gnome org> wrote:

The thing is I would like to use a physical keyboard as writing longer
command on another one would be a pain.
But it doesn't really read what I type :) also from keyboard there is no
support for per-paragraph navigation.
Not fully sure if it's even possible to make it accessible to the point
of using ncurses apps, as in, not sure how that would look like on the
phone, but maybe.

W dniu 15.02.2021 o 21:53, Peter Vágner pisze:

Hello,

Termux is semi accessible.

You can change talkback granularity to paragraphs and navigate line
by line.

I am not experienced enough to make it better however when I have
submitted that as a patch to termux devs no one said they don't care
about accessibility.

The patch has been reviewed and applied.

It's not accessible enough to use ncurses apps but for simple CLI apps
it's accessible.

If you would like to continue where I have left off, feel free to see
how friendly termux developers are towards accepting accessibility
related work.

https://github.com/termux/termux-app/pull/344
<https://github.com/termux/termux-app/pull/344>

Greetings

Peter

Dňa 12. 2. 2021 o 19:40 mattias jonsson via orca-list napísal(a):

the termux devs dont care about accessibility

Den 12 februari 2021 19:35:08 skrev Michał Zegan via orca-list
<orca-list gnome org>:

Hi,
Any insight on how to use something like termux with
android/talkback?
I do have a physical keyboard, but can't seem to find any way to
navigate between lines or something like this.

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