Re: [orca-list] how accessible is google docs with orca

[Al Sten-Clanton <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

Hi, Janina!?? Although I'd never wish it on anyone, I do appreciate being 
able to share the mystery.?? My wife is connected with a lot of people 
who just *love* the thing, and I'm somewhat involved in one of those groups.


Best!

Al


On 6/15/20 2:27 PM, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Hi, Al:
>
> I do understand your frustration. I find Google Docs pretty frustrating
> whatever OS and screen reader combo I try, and I've tried several.
>
> It seems it's just it's own specialized skill, with lots of keyboard
> shortcuts one would have to become proficient with to get anywhere near
> similar access. I don't particularly have the inclination to give Google
> Docs that much of my life, but circumstances may yet push me there.
>
> Best,
>
> Janina
>
> Al Sten-Clanton writes:
> > Janina, thank you for that information.?? I tried several times over the
> > weekend to use a Google Docs spreadsheet and each time drew a complete
> > blank.
> >
> >
> > Best!
> >
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > On 6/15/20 7:03 AM, Janina Sajka via orca-list wrote:
> > > Hi, Krishnakant:
> > >
> > > In addition to the tip to use Chromium already posted, let me offer to
> > > additional suggestions:
> > >
> > > 1.)     The biggest problem for using Google Docs, imo, is that you need
> > > to learn an entire library of unique keyboard commands in order to use
> > > their products effectively. This has lead me to collect some bookmarks
> > > which I will now share:
> > >
> > >         Google's general help guidance on using accessibility settings
> > >         https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6282736?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
> > >
> > >         Google's help page for using Google Docs and Screen Readers
> > >         https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en
> > >
> > >         Google help specific to spread sheets with a screen reader
> > >         https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632199
> > >
> > >         Help specific to functions and formulas
> > >         https://support.google.com/docs/table/25273?page=table.cs&visit_id=0-636476581705697066-814509724&rd=1
> > >
> > >         Google's guidance on collaboration when using a screen reader
> > >         https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6239410
> > >
> > >         Script to convert a Google Doc to markdown:
> > >         https://github.com/mangini/gdocs2md
> > >
> > > 2.)     If all else fails, or you need a quick fix, saving your Google
> > > Docs file in Microsoft format will let you import it into LibreOffice. I
> > > understand there are extensions (and other strategies) that offer direct
> > > import/export to LibreOffice, but I have no direct experience of those.
> > > I would be curious to hear about that, should anyone have that kind of
> > > experience.
> > >
> > > Googling for '+libreoffice +"Google Docs"'
> > >
> > > yields some fascinating reads.
> > >
> > > Best wishs, and hth,
> > >
> > > Janina
> > >
> > > Orca screen reader developers writes:
> > > > Hello all.
> > > >
> > > > I will have to use google docs in a couple of days for some
> > > > collaboration work.
> > > >
> > > > I don't wish to use any other technologies just for this sake.
> > > >
> > > > So I wish to know the state of accessibility with Orca.
> > > >
> > > > Can I edit documents?
> > > >
> > > > What about spreadsheets?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Krishnakant Mane,
> > > > Project Founder and Leader,
> > > > GNUKhata <https://gnukhata.in/>
> > > > //(Opensource Accounting, Billing and Inventory Management Software)//
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