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Re: [orca-list] punctuation level keystroke I set doesn't seem to work

Hello Didier,


Which version of SpeechDispatcher is used in Slint?
In the latest master, there is a fix for punctuation processing when the line for symbols.dic is commented. 


HTH,


Patrick


Le 29/01/2020 à 12:23, Didier Spaier via orca-list a écrit :

Hi,

Yes I can reproduce. Currently in Slint punctuation settings are not
honored at all, even when set in the preferences GUI.

But orca is not involved, I think that the issue comes from the default
settings in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf modified by
commit 27835c9

Since then in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf,
DefaultSymbolsPreprocessing is set to 1 by default,
but the default setting listed
# SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
is not applied as faras I can tell.

If I uncomment it like this:
SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
everything works as expected, i.e. settings in
.local/share/orca/user_settings.conf are honored, as well as those made
throuh a keyboard shortcut did Albert.

As an aside, setting DefaultSymbolsPreprocessing to 0 instead also
works, as expected.

So:
1. Al, could you please edit as root
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf
to replace this line:
# SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
by:
SymbolPreprocessingFile "symbols.dic"
then reboot and check that now the punctuation settings work.

If that succeeds I will update the speech-dispatcher package.

2. Samuel, could you please check my findings and if confirmed modify
speechd.conf as need be?

Best regards,

Didier


Le 29/01/20 à 01:29, Joanmarie Diggs a écrit :

Didier, I cannot reproduce this problem. Since Slint is involved, could you please see if you can? Thanks!

--joanie

On 1/28/20 7:11 PM, Didier Spaier via orca-list wrote:

Hi,

Joanie probably means the synthesizer set in the voice tab of Orca preferences.

By default in Slint it's espeak-ng but maybe you have changed it.

Best,

Didier

Le 29/01/20 à 00:57, Al Sten-Clanton via orca-list a écrit :

Orca says I'm using speech dispatcher.


Al
On 1/28/20 6:53 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

What synthesizer are you using?
--joanie

On 1/28/20 6:26 PM, Al Sten-Clanton wrote:

Hi, Joanie.



1.  I read your message, the one just below.


2.  I used orca-space to get into settings, then right-arrowed to speech settings, then tabbed to punctuation 
= most.  I hit escape and got out of there.


3.  I pressed control-shift-p.  When I do that, as I did just this second, it says "p punctuation set to all."


4.  I reread a bit of your message. It did not read the comma in "Having said that, ..." It read no other 
punctuation, either.


5.  I hit orca-space again and went to the punctuation setting. It still said punctuation = most.


Note:  I've bound a couple of other keys, but have only tested control-shift-pageup and 
control-shift-pagedown, which are to increase and decrease the speech rate.  They work as they should.


I hope this helps, but tell me if you need more testing.


Al




On 1/28/20 12:39 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Update: Having pinned down the source of the Shift-related regression, realized that it only happens with 
Orca+Shift+key; not Ctrl+Shift+key. That, along with reading your message more closely, tells me that my 
previous suggestion to try without Shift was bogus. Sorry about that!

Having said that, punctuation cycling is working for me as expected. So I'm not sure what's going on in your 
case. Can you give me very precise steps to reproduce the problem?

Note that changing the punctuation level via keystroke is meant to be very temporary. For instance, imagine 
you're proofreading a message where the punctuation needs to be perfect. You'd use the command to change the 
punctuation level, and re-read the message before sending. But as soon as you get into another application, 
things go back to the default. If you really want to make a permanent change, you should do so not via 
keystroke, but by setting the value in the Orca preferences dialog, either globally or for the application 
where you need that setting.

--joanie


On 1/28/20 11:59 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

There seems to be a regression in bindings which are rebound and have shift in them. I'll look into this. In 
the meantime, try a shortcut without Shift to see if this is the same problem for you.

--joanie

On 1/28/20 8:05 AM, Al Sten-Clanton via orca-list wrote:

Greetings!


I am using what I think is the latest version of Orca, and also of Slint.


I assigned the key control-shift-p to set punctuation levels for Orca. I did this as a general setting, not specific to 
any app. When I use the keystroke and am told that the punctuation level is "all," however, I do not get all 
the punctuation. (I'm not sure what level I'm at for the default.) I have found this when using Bookshare with chrome, 
in Thunderbird when reading message, and, if memory serves, in a text document (I forget which editor).


Am I missing something I should do?


Thanks!


Al


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