Re: [orca-list] Reading sender info in Gmail

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

And Orca does for Chromium. See 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1616851

--joanie

On 2/20/20 19:19, Nimer Jaber wrote:
> Hello,
>
> NVDA does this. As does JAWS.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 6:07 AM Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com 
> <mailto:jdiggs igalia com>> wrote:
>
>     While I can confirm what you describe, I would love to know how the
>     other screen readers do it. When you press n, we get a focus claim
>     for a
>     list item whose accessible name is the entire contents of the
>     message --
>     minus the sender info.
>
>     This focus claim is what causes Orca to read the message: If something
>     with a name claims focus, Orca presents the name.
>
>     One of the descendants of the list item is the table with the sender
>     info. There's another descendant table with the recipient info. But I
>     don't see any accessible relation connecting the list item either
>     table.
>     It's not obvious that either or both tables should be presented at all
>     (based on the author provided name being what Orca is expected to
>     present).
>
>     What screen readers do this as you expect? Perhaps I can ask their
>     developers if they are getting something sane exposed to them which
>     we're missing in Linux or if they are doing a sad hack. If it's the
>     latter, then perhaps we should get GMail to fix this....
>
>     --joanie
>
>
>     On 2/19/20 06:20, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
>      > Hello,
>      >
>      > I am wondering if it is possible to get Orca to read the sender
>      > information of a Gmail message. Other screen readers do this, and
>     this
>      > would really be helpful. For repro steps, try the following:
>      >
>      >   * Enable Orca.
>      >   * In Firefox, navigate to gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
>     <http://gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> and sign into
>      >     an account with standard navigation mode, not Basic HTML.
>      >   * Make focus mode sticky.
>      >   * Press j to navigate to the first message, and press enter.
>      >   * Press n to read the message, or the first message in the thread.
>      >
>      >
>      > Expected: The sender information is read out, as well as the time
>     the
>      > message was received. This is the behavior in other screen
>     readers on
>      > other platforms.
>      >
>      > Actual: The sender information is not read out.
>      >
>      > Thanks.
>      >
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>      >
>      > Nimer Jaber
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>
> Nimer Jaber
>
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