Re: [orca-list] Reading sender info in Gmail

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Update: I just tried this in Chromium with Orca and Orca does read the 
sender info in Gmail. Yay! In the case of Chromium the list item 
includes the sender info in the accessible name so Orca reads it 
automatically.

Guess I'll file yet another bug against Firefox....

--joanie

On 2/20/20 15:07, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> While I can confirm what you describe, I would love to know how the 
> other screen readers do it. When you press n, we get a focus claim for a 
> list item whose accessible name is the entire contents of the message -- 
> minus the sender info.
>
> This focus claim is what causes Orca to read the message: If something 
> with a name claims focus, Orca presents the name.
>
> One of the descendants of the list item is the table with the sender 
> info. There's another descendant table with the recipient info. But I 
> don't see any accessible relation connecting the list item either table. 
> It's not obvious that either or both tables should be presented at all 
> (based on the author provided name being what Orca is expected to present).
>
> What screen readers do this as you expect? Perhaps I can ask their 
> developers if they are getting something sane exposed to them which 
> we're missing in Linux or if they are doing a sad hack. If it's the 
> latter, then perhaps we should get GMail to fix this....
>
> --joanie
>
>
> On 2/19/20 06:20, Nimer Jaber via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am wondering if it is possible to get Orca to read the sender 
> > information of a Gmail message. Other screen readers do this, and this 
> > would really be helpful. For repro steps, try the following:
> >
> >   * Enable Orca.
> >   * In Firefox, navigate to gmail.com <http://gmail.com> and sign into
> >     an account with standard navigation mode, not Basic HTML.
> >   * Make focus mode sticky.
> >   * Press j to navigate to the first message, and press enter.
> >   * Press n to read the message, or the first message in the thread.
> >
> >
> > Expected: The sender information is read out, as well as the time the 
> > message was received. This is the behavior in other screen readers on 
> > other platforms.
> >
> > Actual: The sender information is not read out.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
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