Re: [orca-list] Making an dynamic inputless informative window accessible

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Could you set the accessible role to notification and then cause the 
text to become showing when it needed to be spoken?

On 4/16/20 10:47, Colomban Wendling via orca-list wrote:
> Hello Joanie & al
>
> I'm working on an app with a purely informative GTK UI, that is it
> doesn't have controls or such -- save closing the window.  Basically
> it's presenting the status of a network connection with some fancy
> around (connecting, connected, error, etc.).
>
> All work fine, but the presentation by Orca: I need it to read out the
> information as it comes ("Connecting, please wait…", "You are now
> connected", "Failed to connect", …), but I'm failing to get totally
> satisfying results.  Here are the options I tested:
>
> * Making the labels selectable, which makes them focusable.  That's what
> I'm using for now, but cons are:
>    - I don't actually want the label to be selected or selectable, so I
> have to fight GTK on visual display;
>    - Orca announces the type of the element ("label") -- which is
> consistent and expected, but adds noise in this case.
>
> * Making my label describe the window
>    - Orca is a little too "quick" at announcing the content after
> announcing the window.  This is again not a surprise, but suboptimal;
>    - Orca doesn't announce a change if I update the relation (make a new
> label be the description of the window).  I didn't actually test
> changing the label's content, but I would not expect much success.
>
> * Using role ALERT on the window.  This mostly works at first, but:
>    - This doesn't *really* feel appropriate for this window as it's not
> really an alert, but well
>   - Orca doesn't announce changes in the window (e.g. when the displayed
> label changes)
>
> * Using the role STATIC on the labels
>    - Requires me manually setting the a11y name, but that's OK
>    - Orca doesn't announce anything.
>
> All of the above (but the first) have additional issues if I *do* have
> somewhere the focus can actually go (a link on a label) because then
> this part gets announced twice.
>
> Basically, this boils down to how to make a focus-less window with
> dynamic content be presented best.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for reading this through, and in advance for answers :)
>
> Regards,
> Colomban
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