Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client
- From: Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>
- To: orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Odd issue with the Riot web client
- Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 10:41:29 -0500
Sorry for the spam, but I just discovered another interesting detail
that might help diagnose this:
If I type anything into the field, then enter browse mode, I can arrow
up just fine. But if the field is empty, arrowing up (not down) traps me
in it. The field also says "Opens list box" when empty, but not when
there is any content.
I'm wondering if this input is classified as a list widget of some kind,
and maybe eats up-arrows even if in browse mode? That would be
consistent with a widget like this which, presumably, lets me arrow up
to previous messages I sent and edit them.
Anyhow, still not sure where the specific issue lies, but hopefully I've
given enough of a pointer.
On 11/1/19 10:29 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:
Hey folks,
The Riot developers have been pouring lots of effort recently into
making their web-based Matrix client accessible. But I'm experiencing
a pretty significant issue with their new text entry system for
messages that they can't duplicate under NVDA. I'm wondering if any
Orca users are seeing the same, and if this can be diagnosed as either
a Firefox/Orca issue under Linux, or as something they aren't doing
correctly on their end. To test, you'll need a Matrix account. Once
you have one and are logged in, visit this instance with accessibility
improvements:
https://riots.im/adhoc/a11y
Join a room or chat. You'll probably be automatically focused into the
message input field and put in focus mode. Once there, enter browse
mode and try arrowing up.
Apparently, NVDA handles this use case fine both in the accessibility
build and the development build at riot.im/develop. Orca, on the other
hand, won't let me arrow up. I hear "Newline," followed by some
buttons, and focus lands back in the message entry field. The only way
to escape this field is to enter browse mode and use b/B/h/some other
quick navigation key, then hope you don't land back in the mud.
Happens under Orca master as of a few minutes ago and Firefox nightly
as of a few days ago, but it's happened for a bit now so I don't think
it's a bleeding-edge regression. Apologies for not reporting it--been
a bit busy and it hasn't been high enough priority for me.
Is there any actionable feedback I can give the Riot folks to fix
this? They're pretty actively looking for feedback in the
#a11y:matrix.org room, so if you're Matrix-inclined and want to give
it then there is the best place, or I'll happily relay it otherwise.
Thanks a bunch.
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