Re: [orca-list] debug with orca master Re: problems with java app with newer orca versions

[Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>]

Thanks for the debug.out. The problem appears to be something broken in
the app itself. When the selection changes, the app you are using tells
Orca that what you're on is no longer valid (it has STATE_INVALID)
present in its state set. Orca should not update your location to
objects which claim to not be valid.

In older versions of Orca, this check was not done. As a result, when
objects got focus/became selected and were immediately destroyed, Orca
would sometimes stop speaking/brailling your location. Newer versions of
Orca have that bug fixed. However, that's made the app bug a problem.

Getting the invalid-state bug fixed in the app is the right thing to do
because Orca can't reliably tell things which are truly invalid from
those which are valid but telling Orca they are invalid. (i.e. this
would be hard to safely hack around without breaking other things)

Sorry!
--joanie

On 06/05/2018 12:03 PM, Halim Sahin wrote:
> Hi,
> See log attached.
> MfG.
> Halim
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 11:16:22AM +0200, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Any chance of a full debug.out, ideally one captured using Orca master?
> > --joanie
> >
> > On 06/05/2018 10:25 AM, Halim Sahin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Today I've updated to ubuntu bionic.
> > > An application which I could use with ubuntu 16.04  is not accessible
> > > with orca anymore.
> > >
> > > The issue in orca was introduced between orca 3.18 and orca3.20.
> > > Last working version is 3.18.
> > > Maybe the following warning  gives a hint to someone.
> > >
> > > 10:05:25.692 <1> main.SSAViewer:initLogging [INFO] *** NEW LOGGING STARTED ***
> > > 10:05:25.699 <1> main.SSAViewer:logSystemSettings [INFO] Enviroment Settings:
> > >     Java Runtime Version 1.8.0_171, Oracle Corporation
> > >     Operating System: Linux, Version 4.15.0-22-generic
> > >     Locale (Language_Country) = de_DE (Deutsch (Deutschland))
> > >
> > > ** (java:16297): WARNING **: 10:05:25.972: jaw_impl_get_instance called from jaw_thread. If you are 
> > > running a screen reader, this is expected
> > > if you are not running a screen reader, please report this warning to the java-atk-wrapper package, 
> > > explaining how to reproduce this warning
> > >
> > > I get that warning only with newer orca versions running.
> > >
> > > Thx in advance.
> > > MfG.
> > > Halim
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