Re: [orca-list] RFC: reporting spread sheet selection changes

[Krishnakant Mane <kkmane riseup net>]

I too agree with Fernando.

This is very important to consider in different situations specially 
because people like your's truely work with sighted people and 
perception of what should be known in different situations is different.

Happy hacking.

Krishnakant.


On Wednesday 11 July 2018 10:08 PM, Fernando Botelho wrote:
> I would agree with Peter on this point.
>
> it makes more intuitive sense to me when what is selected in the 
> spreadsheet is reported, since my action in that moment is that of 
> selecting.
>
> In the context of text selection, not spreadsheets, I would wish to 
> keep the current behavior of simply reporting the delta, i.e. what has 
> changed with the latest movement. I understand this can be considered 
> inconsistent, but these are different cases in my view.
>
> Best,
>
> Fernando
>
>
> On 07/11/2018 01:31 PM, Peter Vágner via orca-list wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Regarding spread sheet selection changes here is something to discuss.
> > When selecting a range of cells in Libreoffice calc orca now presents 
> > what has changed in regard to the selection.
> > I am coming from NVDA on Windows and I'm used to only hear what is 
> > selected and not how I might have achieved current selection state.
> > So for example take these steps:
> > * move to cell D2 and press shift+ctrl+home. A1 through D2 becomes 
> > selected and orca reports to the fact.
> > * Now press shift+down arrow. A1 through D1 becomes unselected and 
> > orca reports to the fact. Selection of A2 through D2 stays unchanged 
> > so orca does not present this range at all.
> > * I'd like to hear your thoughts what you like orca to report in such 
> > a case. I'd like to hear A2 through D2 selected instead of A1 through 
> > D1 unselected when manipulating selected range of cells like this.
> > * The same goes for selection expansion if A1 through D2 are all 
> > selected I press down arrow I'd prefer to hear A1 through D3 selected 
> > instead of A3 through D3 selected.
> >
> > I understand currently it's implemented like this because it's in 
> > sync with text selection and document content selection in general.
> > I know reporting start and end of the selection range all the time 
> > may seem like it would introduce extra verbosity but the fact other 
> > screen readers on different platforms are working like this is more 
> > important to me than staying in sync with text selection reporting.
> >
> > I'd be happy to hear from hardcore linux users that are using linux 
> > as their only platform of choice when it comes to accessible 
> > computing. I would like to make sure these users have no expectations 
> > because of a different platform they might have used previously.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Peter
> >
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